The Dim-Post

November 23, 2008

A common theme

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 3:00 pm

Deborah Coddington (a former ACT MP) and Michael Laws (a former National MP) both weigh in on the Nia Glassie-child abuse issue. As with every other problem he’s ever encountered, Laws concludes that child abuse is caused by political correctness gone mad. But wait, there’s more:

Laws:

. . . let’s admit that most of the underclass cannot be trusted with children. Ever. They may have the ability to procreate, but possess no sensibility to accept the responsibility. They are the underclass for a reason. And their idea of best parenting is to create someone like them – uneducated, pig ignorant, welfare-dependent, addicted and violent. And we want a new generation of such people. Why?

Raising children is a privilege, not a right. Child, Youth and Family is starting to station staff in delivery rooms but not enough and not often enough. No person connected with the Kahui, Glassie or Pailegutu cases should ever have been allowed to breed. They forfeited those rights, the moment they conducted or condoned such abuse. Their children will be just like them – malignant and feral.

Coddington:

But who has the guts to stand up and say that? Just two mayors – Wanganui’s Michael Laws and Bob Harvey from Waitakere. At the opening of the Every Child Counts conference in Wellington this year, Harvey said: “Enough is enough. We have to toughen up and say some people right now are just not fit to be parents … some children should not actually be allowed to go home. Doctors, nurses and midwives can tell, they know as soon as that baby is taken out the door it will go into a home of neglect and dysfunction.”

We ban from business company directors who repeatedly display reckless disregard for financial management, but we won’t implement the obvious – if violent parents insist on breeding, their babies should be removed and raised far, far away from their influence.

Well thank god we’ve gotten rid of that horrible nanny state Labour party and the government can get on with the real work of confiscating people’s children off them at birth.

Its also worth pointing out that much of ‘the underclass’ is Maori, and so a program preventing ‘the underclass’ from breeding will also look suspiciously like an eugenics program of racial extermination which is probably not the spirit in which Maori and Pakeha want to enter the 21st century together. Coddington’s post-natal confiscation policy sounds awfully similar to the ‘Aborigine Protection Acts’ in Australia, which didn’t pan out well for anyone.

It’s not actually that hard to imagine a solution for the child abuse problem: a national parental support program in which parents and children under five attended yearly or bi-yearly appointments with a government agency, with warning signs or failure to attend red-flagged and followed up by an investigation by social workers would probably be more successful than telling unprivileged Maori that ‘they cannot be allowed to breed’ or swiping their children at birth.

However, all parents would have to be subject to such a body and therein lies the problem. While Laws has no problem with suggesting ‘other’ people be subjected to incredibly harsh sanctions, the notion that he or people like him should have to front up to some nurse or social worker once a year, and be investigated if they fail to do so would surely be met with an epic temper tantrum. Increasing the size of the MSD to rival that of the school system, and the subsequent tax increases required to pay for it would – one suspects – also be an insurmountable obstacle.

When people like Laws and Coddington say we need to do something about child abuse, what they inevitably mean is that someone else needs to do something and someone else needs to pay for it.

17 Comments »

  1. Precisely.

    Laws even pins some of the blame on defence lawyers clearly demonstrating his ignorance on the judicial system and neatly taking the responsibility off the state to investigate and prosecute to a high standard.

    Comment by Madeleine — November 23, 2008 @ 3:27 pm | Reply

  2. “…much of ‘the underclass’ is Maori”

    And why is that? Any ideas?

    Comment by chris — November 23, 2008 @ 4:41 pm | Reply

  3. “a national parental support program” – just fund Plunket properly to go to every home as often as the Plunket nurse thinks is necessary.

    Comment by homepaddock — November 23, 2008 @ 4:45 pm | Reply

  4. “…much of ‘the underclass’ is Maori”

    And why is that? Any ideas?

    Rapid urbanisation into well paid industrial work in the 50s and 60s followed by a corresponding decline in the same sectors in the late-1970s through mid-1990s, causing a poverty/unemployment/underemployment/education gap that many Maori have struggled to get out of. Often put forward as a standard explanation when I was an undergraduate a few years ago.

    Comment by George Darroch — November 23, 2008 @ 5:02 pm | Reply

  5. Rapid urbanisation into well paid industrial work in the 50s and 60s followed by a corresponding decline in the same sectors in the late-1970s through mid-1990s, causing a poverty/unemployment/underemployment/education gap that many Maori have struggled to get out of.

    I also can’t help notice that pretty much every colonised, indigenous population (maori, the aboriginies, native americans in both north and south america) make up the bulk of that countries underclass, suggesting that its hardly some unique, specific problem with Maori culture or people.

    Besides, Michael Laws points out that asking questions about the underlying causes of the issue is political correctness gone mad! Do you WANT to be part of the problem?

    Comment by danylmc — November 23, 2008 @ 5:11 pm | Reply

  6. If Laws thinks that trying to understand the cause of problem is political correctness (and therefore pointless) he is nuts. You can’t begin to fix a problem until you have worked out what caused it.

    I would like to know what the rates of child abuse and murder are in non-colonised indigenous populations relative to colonised ones. I don’t know if anyone has ever done a study on this with Amazonian Indians for instance.

    Comment by chris — November 23, 2008 @ 8:46 pm | Reply

  7. So they shouldn’t tell you how to raise your children – they should tell you not to raise your children.

    Comment by lyndon — November 24, 2008 @ 9:46 am | Reply

  8. A pediatrician told me that they can usually tell the kids that will end up being abused by the names they are given. Too many apostrophes and unusual spellings is a good indicator, as well as plain crazy names.

    Comment by insider — November 24, 2008 @ 10:22 am | Reply

  9. Bearing children is neither a right nor a privilege, it is an act of nature. Mankind (the animal) is driven to procreate in order to evolve; unfortunately we have seemingly stopped evolution by adapting the world to us, instead of us to the world in the natural schema.

    Having said that, there needs to be a societal solution to poor parenting – perhaps a return to a society where communities work together to protect the weak (women and children) and support the poor (women & children) through a network of mothers who knew each other, knew what happened in each others’ lives, and weren’t afraid to send their men to deal with the oppressor and spender (men) when the weak and poor were being hard done by.

    Now that would be a journey back to the future worth taking! In the meantime we can continue to be persuaded by marketing wonkers to go out and earn more so we can buy more ’stuff’ that the ‘under-class’ (uneducated compared to a PhD, pig ignorant compared to a long-pig in Epsom, welfare-dependent earning $150,000 pa and collecting working for families, addicted to meetings- blogs- cocktails- eating and politics, and violent when confronted with an insect flying towards them ) can envy.

    Comment by shocked and stunned — November 24, 2008 @ 10:30 am | Reply

  10. unusual spellings is a good indicator, as well as plain crazy names.

    Hey!

    Comment by Danyl Mclauchlan — November 24, 2008 @ 11:01 am | Reply

  11. As Madeleine has noted, Mr Laws has observed that allowing the defence to have lawyers is PC gone mad; ah, bring back the good ol’ lynch mob of agrarian innocence, or are defence lawyers to be allowed for crimes for which Mr Laws approves, or at least finds himself at risk of committing?

    Comment by Leopold — November 24, 2008 @ 11:20 am | Reply

  12. Danyl don’t count compared to D’v'ocean and V8 Kahlua

    Comment by insider — November 24, 2008 @ 1:15 pm | Reply

  13. Danyl don’t count compared to D’v’ocean and V8 Kahlua

    My wife’s name is V8 Kahlua.

    Comment by Danyl Mclauchlan — November 24, 2008 @ 1:49 pm | Reply

  14. …and my wife’s name is Incontinenta.
    Leopoldus Biggus Dickus

    Comment by Leopold — November 24, 2008 @ 2:23 pm | Reply

  15. “My wife’s name is V8 Kahlua.”

    Then you’ll know I’m not joking

    Comment by insider — November 24, 2008 @ 3:33 pm | Reply

  16. “It’s not actually that hard to imagine a solution for the child abuse problem: a national parental support program in which parents and children under five attended yearly or bi-yearly appointments with a government agency, with warning signs or failure to attend red-flagged and followed up by an investigation by social workers”

    So, kinda do what’s being done now, but, like, harder, longer, faster and with even more taxpayer money?

    Comment by Clunking Fist — November 25, 2008 @ 6:40 pm | Reply

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