Joseph Galloway (who covered the Vietnam War for UPI and won a Bronze Star for rescuing US soldiers under heavy fire) has strong feelings about the death of McNamara:
Well, the aptly named Robert Strange McNamara has finally shuffled off to join LBJ and Dick Nixon in the 7th level of Hell.
. . .
The most bizarre incident involving McNamara occurred when he was president of the World Bank and, off on his summer holiday, he caught the Martha’s Vineyard ferry. It was a night crossing in bad weather. McNamara was in the salon, drink in hand, schmoozing with fellow passengers. On the deck outside a vineyard local, a hippie artist, glanced through the window and did a double-take. The artist was outraged to see McNamara, whom he viewed as a war criminal, so enjoying himself.
He immediately opened the door and told McNamara there was a radiophone call for him on the bridge. McNamara set down his drink and stepped outside. The artist immediately grabbed him, wrestled him to the railing and pushed him over the side. McNamara managed to get his fingers through the holes in the metal plate that ran from the top of the railing to the scuppers.
McNamara was screaming bloody murder; the artist was prying his fingers loose one at a time. Someone heard the racket and raced out and pulled the artist off.
By the time the ferry docked in the vineyard McNamara had decided against filing charges against the artist, and he was freed and walked away.
Galloway co-wrote We Were Soldiers Once . . . and Young, which is pretty good – but the best book about Vietnam I’ve encountered is A Bright and Shining Lie. I really think that’s a book everyone should read at least once.
McNamara was a the wrong man in the wrong job. John Ralston Saul has a pretty good insight into his mind in Voltaire’s Bastards. Frightening.
Comment by Jackson — July 8, 2009 @ 9:54 am
Both those books show America’s ineptness at fighting the Vietnam War. Read any of the 3 Australian books on the Battle of Long Tan and then read We Were Soldiers Once to get a clearer picture.
Article on top US Military commanders meeting with LBJ in November 1965 trying to change the course set by McNamara in Vietnam.
http://hnn.us/articles/34024.html
Comment by Simon — July 8, 2009 @ 6:23 pm
Yeah, carpet bombing Hanoi would have been so cool eh Simon?
Are you a libertarian?
Comment by Guy Smiley — July 9, 2009 @ 4:41 am
Actually, this is good…
http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/mcnamara-in-context/
Comment by Guy Smiley — July 9, 2009 @ 6:30 am
Throughout John Paul Vann argued that America shouldn’t be trapped fighting a limited Asian land war.
Vann had fought in the Korean War a war limited to the Korean peninsula where Communist China could pour in unlimited numbers of soldiers to fight indefinitely. In South Vietnam the early 1960s Vann could see a repeat of a war limited to a geographical area against an enemy with unlimited human resources operating from a safe area. The war had to be fought differently.
This was the conclusion of the top military leadership in 1965 and their advice was rejected by McNamara and LBJ.
Comment by Simon — July 9, 2009 @ 8:34 am
LOL: Libertarians don’t go to war!
Comment by Clunking Fist — July 10, 2009 @ 1:05 pm
Of course not, it’s far too distasteful. They send other people to war.
Comment by Guy Smiley — July 11, 2009 @ 8:09 am
“Galloway co-wrote We Were Soldiers Once . . . and Young, which is pretty good – but the best book about Vietnam I’ve encountered is A Bright Shining Lie. I really think that’s a book everyone should read at least once.”
Having taken this advice I wasn’t disappointed. Your reading recommendations are pretty damn reliable (well, 2 out of 2 at least after that Al Qaeda book a few months back).
Comment by Sam Finnemore — July 27, 2009 @ 2:57 pm
“Of course not, it’s far too distasteful. They send other people to war.” And your examples are..?
Comment by Clunking Fist — July 28, 2009 @ 12:31 pm
(sorry: not examples of distasteful war, we’ll take that as given. Of course, wars ones own country starts are among the most distasteful.)
Comment by Clunking Fist — July 28, 2009 @ 12:35 pm