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August 25, 2009

A buffoon and a jerk off

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 3:10 pm
ACT leader and Local Government Minister Rodney Hide (right)

ACT leader and Local Government Minister Rodney Hide (right)

That’s Tau Henere’s description of Rodney Hide. Nice. I love the word buffoon, use it a lot and I’m thrilled to see it enter the political discourse.

Colin Espiner writes about the Hide-Sharples-Henare three way, commenting on the ACT leaders odd behaviour:

So Hide has got his way, but I think he has burnt considerable political capital in getting it, and it seemed a strange issue to die in a ditch over. You don’t get many opportunities to threaten to resign as the head of a party polling as low as Hide’s, and he has used his up.

My theory is that Hide has swallowed a LOT of rats over the last nine months, that he’s proposed various insane neo-liberal schemes for local government or the destruction thereof (‘then we sell all the public libraries to Saudi Aramco and lease them back!’) that English and Key have listened with open-mouthed horror and gently rejected them all (‘maybe in 2022 but we’re not promising anything’), and that the idea of Maori seats on the council – Rodney’s council! – was just the last fucking straw. No way. Never.

Hide’s tantrum was probably fairly convenient for Key – there wouldn’t have been a lot of enthusiasm within his own party for Maori seats: just last month the Nats failed to elect Wira Gardiner to their board of directors even though Key supported him for the presidency (which was won by Peter Goodfellow – how’s that working out for you guys?).

Colin writes about the Maori Party:

I think Sharples has come out of this looking very moderate and statesmanlike. He hasn’t issued any threats or ultimatums. Clearly the Maori Party is upset. But there’s no toy-throwing or talk of walking away from National.

Personally I think the Maori Party are looking a bit daft: Tau Henare put up more of a fight for the Maori seats than Sharples or Turia. I’m not really qualified to talk about how Maori will view this but I suspect they value Council representation higher than having Sharples look all statesmanlike and moderate.

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27 Comments »

  1. Who cares, considering only 40% of the population vote in local body elections it wouldnt be much of a stretch for a wealthy tribe to get someone elected. There are probably about a 1000 people in the country who really give a flying stuff about this nonsense, you auklanders deserve Andrew Williams for your new mayor then you will have something to get excited about.

    Kind regards
    General Tito

    Comment by David — August 25, 2009 @ 3:40 pm

  2. ’then we sell all the public libraries to Saudi Aramco and lease them back!’
    Ooh yes – after they’ve burnt the books.

    Sharples looking statesmanlike? Much like Georgina te Heuheu, after McCully et al tipped a bucket of ordure over her back in 2004. Probably didn’t do her that much harm in the long run.

    Comment by joew — August 25, 2009 @ 3:50 pm

  3. “You don’t get many opportunities to threaten to resign as the head of a party polling as low as Hide’s…”

    Makes it sound like Rodders threatened to resign as leader of the ACT Party, which he did not.

    Comment by radar — August 25, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

  4. “Personally I think the Maori Party are looking a bit daft:”

    Personally I think its MMP that looks daft.. two parties scratching to make 3% between them stumbling through the night looking for a constituency and issues to attract them..

    JC

    Comment by JC — August 25, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

  5. I don’t understand why the terminology being used is “tantrum” and “throwing his toys” etc. Hide and Key had a discussion. Hide correctly told him he would have to resign (as he clearly would) if he had to vote against legislation introduced in his name as Minister. Sharples didn’t have a “fit” or a “tantrum” because he’s not the relevant minister. He can vote for what he wants: it doesn’t affect his portfolio position but it does with Hide.

    Comment by Gooner — August 25, 2009 @ 4:32 pm

  6. Hide correctly told him he would have to resign (as he clearly would) if he had to vote against legislation introduced in his name as Minister.

    Ministers never get to introduce legislation they agree with 100% – if you’re asked to pass something that you simply cannot live with then yeah, sure, you offer to resign, but this seems like a weirdly trivial thing for Hide to go to the mat for – especially since he can’t repeat the trick. If he threatens to resign over something else = something way more serious – Key will be forced to accept his resignation.

    Comment by danylmc — August 25, 2009 @ 5:11 pm

  7. Key never supported Gardiner for President. (Good job too, he belongs in the past)
    The new Council can decide to have Maori seats once they are in.I doubt they will though. Personally I am dismayed that Maori think they are so useless that they couldnt get representation on their own merits.Especially on the Wards, which will all have real power to manage their own turf. There are 130,000 Maori in Alkd afterall.
    Besides the current Alkd Council is pretty diverse ethnically anyway.

    Comment by Captain Crab — August 25, 2009 @ 5:14 pm

  8. Maori were granted “the unqualified exercise of their chieftanship over all their lands and villages”. I don’t think it’s a real fear of getting representation so much as trying to convert some contractual promises.

    Comment by Miro — August 25, 2009 @ 6:20 pm

  9. No fan of Hide who never misses an opportunity to grandstand but it is one of those issues where a principled liberterian party would make a stand. He made this ultimatum, or princpled stand depending on your prejudice, in private to Key and has only been outed by a poltical foe. So it looks principled – but daft.

    If ACT did have serious adherance to libertarian principles then i’d consider voting for them but they’re just some random group of odd people. Similarly if the Greens were a sensible environmental party I’d be spoilt for choice.

    I think the MP comes out of this looking quite good. I’m impressed with how they are handling not getting what they want.

    Comment by Neil — August 25, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

  10. I think Sharples has come out of this looking very moderate and statesmanlike.

    Of course he did — he’s got Hone to be the reliably outrageous rentaquote, and Tariana has some Tourette’s-like complusion to play the racist card on anyone she disagrees with. Delegation is an important leadership skill. :)

    Comment by Craig Ranapia — August 26, 2009 @ 7:24 am

  11. I’m wondering if the MP aren’t positioning themselves for more gain on the foreshore and seabed issue.

    No doubt Maori seats is an important cause but it’s not like this is retrograde – there aren’t seats at the moment (and Labour had 9 years to do something aout that so tgheir new found enthusiasm is a bit suspect) and there’s still th eoption of Aucklanders making this decision themeslves – which is what a lot of the critic sof reform have wanted anyway.

    So make a stand, live with the lose and then demand more later.

    The other new converts to the cause – the councils of Waitakere, North Sohre and Manukau look equally ridiculous in my opinion since none of them have Maori seats and have doen nothing about it either.

    Comment by Neil — August 26, 2009 @ 8:17 am

  12. Personally I think the Maori Party are looking a bit daft:

    Whereas they look to me like they’re playing the long game in politics and aren’t grandstanding from one issue to another. In short: They’re seen to be maturing as politicians. They’ve played a very smart hand so far.

    Comment by Ataahua — August 26, 2009 @ 8:24 am

  13. …and aren’t grandstanding from one issue to another.In short: They’re seen to be maturing as politicians.

    I have this perception that quite a few people (okay Maori) vote for them TO grandstand and stir things up a bit. I don’t think this current behaviour will dent their polling, but a few voters might be a bit miffed.

    Comment by StephenR — August 26, 2009 @ 8:33 am

  14. @StephenR: It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out!

    Comment by Ataahua — August 26, 2009 @ 9:45 am

  15. Or not, if the MP goes on being so ‘constructive’ ;-)

    Comment by StephenR — August 26, 2009 @ 9:53 am

  16. I have this perception that quite a few people (okay Maori) vote for them TO grandstand and stir things up a bit.

    The media certainly did, and their collective disappointment has been palpable as a London pea-souper fog. Then again, I don’t think the Maori Party really had keeping the existential ennui from the doors of the Press Gallery terribly high on their agenda.

    Comment by Craig Ranapia — August 26, 2009 @ 1:58 pm

  17. I have know Hone Harawira from a long way back and is behaviour is ‘interesting’ to say the least. But for goodness sake would someone teach him how to put on a tie. That method he is using now is soooo out of date. Heck, I was doing that so far back I can’t remember if it was the 70’s or 80’s. Either way, it is not a good look.

    Comment by Christopher Thomson — August 26, 2009 @ 2:06 pm

  18. And talking about parliamentary looks, has anyone noticed that now the Greens and Maori have adopted the old Labour tactic of putting blatant advertising on the benches? I am talking about those file boxes all done up in party colours and logo’ed out. Always in camera view behind the member of that party when they are being filmed.

    it may not be wrong but I think (IMHO) it is just tacky.

    Comment by Christopher Thomson — August 26, 2009 @ 2:08 pm

  19. CT, I think it’s pretty helpful – there are a lot of MPs out there I don’t recognise or know the party of.

    Comment by StephenR — August 26, 2009 @ 2:10 pm

  20. Good point – hadn’t thought of that. Then how do we get the suggestion up to them that they should do something formal. Get those desk triangle things that have the party colours and logo’s for everyone. Yep, I like it. makes good sense when I think about it.

    Comment by Christopher Thomson — August 26, 2009 @ 2:14 pm

  21. Brighly coloured sashes and hats.

    Comment by StephenR — August 26, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

  22. Stephen, I assumed you were talking about the boxes, not Hone’s tie.

    Comment by Christopher Thomson — August 26, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

  23. I know this is off-topic but why do they all feel the need to wear the company coloured tie? Can’t labour were something other than red and national something other than blue.

    Perhaps sashes and hats is not too far off the mark.

    Comment by Christopher Thomson — August 26, 2009 @ 2:19 pm

  24. Team singlets. Well, maybe not.

    Comment by Helen — August 27, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

  25. I like those FBI jackets they have in the movies & TV (Homer Simpson wore a similar one which said “Witness Protection”.)

    Comment by llew — August 27, 2009 @ 3:36 pm

  26. Agent Cooper wore FBI pyjamas.

    Comment by danylmc — August 27, 2009 @ 4:20 pm

  27. Superman wears Chuck Norris pyjamas.

    Comment by Phil (not Goff) — August 27, 2009 @ 5:05 pm


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