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August 26, 2009

Fancy That

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 12:58 pm

According to DPF, John Boscowen’s bill to amend Bradford’s amendment has been drawn from the members ballot.

I suspect Labour and National will kill it before it goes to Select Committee – my impression is that our MPs really don’t want to have to listen to anymore oral submissions vis-a-vis smacking, child abuse, demonic possession etc.

Update: That was fast. National will not be supporting Boscawen’s bill.

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14 Comments »

  1. round 3 of Child Beaters vs Family Destroyers.

    Comment by Neil — August 26, 2009 @ 1:14 pm

  2. Will labour kill it off? This could be a spike to impale National upon. What an interesting combination we could see; Labour and ACT v National and Green. How would those numbers stack up.

    Phil could use this to show he is the ‘new’ labour. Back in touch with the million plus who want it gone. Perhaps it is too far from the next election to be useful.

    Comment by Christopher Thomson — August 26, 2009 @ 2:24 pm

  3. 3 News reports:

    “John Key has announced he will partially support ACT MP John Boscawen’s private members bill on the anti-smacking law, which was drawn in today’s member’s ballot.

    Key said this afternoon he would support the bill through to the select committee stage.”

    (PM holding press conference at 4 o’clock.)

    Comment by sammy — August 26, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

  4. Holy crap.

    Is this turning out to be the defining point of JK’s time at the top? Or just a storm in a teacup?

    Comment by Christopher Thomson — August 26, 2009 @ 3:17 pm

  5. Comment 2: That would be hilarious. Actually slightly plausible, but would certainly require an about-face or two.

    Comment by StephenR — August 26, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

  6. This could be a spike to impale National upon.

    Excellent point. The Nats enjoyed seeing this tarbaby cover Labour with sticky unpleasantness for a good year or more, so why wouldn’t Labour send Boscawen’s amendment to select committee and enjoy some big-time payback? Could be a laff riot…

    Comment by Psycho Milt — August 26, 2009 @ 4:09 pm

  7. Meh… I reckon the vast majority of people will continue to be happy with whatever John Key says.

    I’d be surprised if many of the people who voted “no” actually care about changing the current law. They just wanted to say that they’ll bloody well smack their kids if they feel like it, and the darn government should butt out.

    The same voters are all massively against child abuse, so if Key puts on his best grin and promises that no good parents will be prosecuted but that the law needs to stay as it is to protect children, I reckon 90% will go along with it. It’s not like Baldock or Boscawen have any credibility or are likely to gain any.

    It should be really easy for Key to come out of this looking responsible but populist and decisive but calm in the midst of a bunch of loonies. Again.

    Comment by gazzaj — August 26, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

  8. Re- comment #3 by, er, me:

    “Prime Minister John Key has ruled out supporting an ACT bill urging the repeal of so-called anti-smacking laws.

    … Mr Key today scotched any likelihood of the bill passing its first parliamentary vote by declaring National’s opposition.”

    (stuff.co.nz)

    So either 3 News got it wrong, or Stuff got it wrong, or John Key has said two totally different things. Probably all three.

    Comment by sammy — August 26, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

  9. I don’t really like doing this sort of thing but this is just too tempting, from kiwiblog comment thread –

    “The only good thing I can see about this is an ACT prime minister in 2011.”

    yep that’s worth betting on.

    Bradford’s response has been up to her usual oddness. Defining what reasonable force is will lead to Children Being Beaten. As far as I can see Boscowen’s bill doesn’t try to define what reasonble force is but details what would be considered unreasonable force.

    So now we are left with a law that allows “reasonable” – undefined – force to stop children doing naughty things aslong as that isn’t “correcting” their behaviour. God forbid stopping kids doing naughty things could be considered correcting their behaviour.

    topsy turvy all round

    Comment by Neil — August 26, 2009 @ 8:59 pm

  10. “I’d be surprised if many of the people who voted “no” actually care about changing the current law.”

    I’d be surprised if many know what the current law actually says.

    ““The only good thing I can see about this is an ACT prime minister in 2011.””

    Ha haaaah!

    Comment by llew — August 26, 2009 @ 9:26 pm

  11. “Let them spank monkeys.”

    That John Key is my kinda Marie Antoinette.

    Comment by joew — August 27, 2009 @ 6:09 am

  12. “The only good thing I can see about this is an ACT prime minister in 2011.”

    Half tempted to put money on this. The odds are so long that $5 placed now could make you wealthier than all of ACT combined if it paid off…

    Comment by Sam Finnemore — August 27, 2009 @ 11:08 am

  13. Half tempted to put money on this. The odds are so long that $5 placed now could make you wealthier than all of ACT combined if it paid off…

    There will obviously be some super rich ACT-oids once they get wind of THIS:

    https://www.ipredict.co.nz/Main.php?do=stock_detail&stock=PM.2011.OTHER

    Comment by StephenR — August 27, 2009 @ 11:11 am

  14. “Let them spank monkeys.”

    That was fucking funny. Good one.

    Comment by Guy Smiley — August 28, 2009 @ 6:57 am


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