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October 30, 2009

Deeper into English

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 7:35 am

Lew at Kiwipolitico breaks down Bill English’s propaganda spot on TVNZ:

the factor which makes this more a political advertisement than anything else, is that Bill English is the connection between the two narratives: if you accept the narrative line, he is the key to turning the dream into reality. This is essentially an overarching ‘hope’ narrative, a most powerful sort in troubled times, as Barack Obama realised

The Standard gets an invite to the show’s breakfast launch. Up until now I’ve felt that TVNZs marketing department were using English to promote their show the same way they’d use any celebrity and that they genuinely were too stupid to understand concepts like balance of views and objectivity in political programming. So I was a bit surprised to see that their political editor – who is very smart and understands these issues very well – is fronting the debate.

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  1. So I was a bit surprised to see that their political editor – who is very smart and understands these issues very well – is fronting the debate.

    Leave Espiner alone, he is just polishing his CV and is involved in the longest most public job interview eva!

    Comment by andy — October 30, 2009 @ 7:58 am

  2. How dare english get media savvy and use tv7, i mean using tv7 is the preserve of the left surely.

    Comment by dontknowthat — October 30, 2009 @ 8:08 am

  3. But apparently he just showed up and read the teleprompter as he was told to do, so he was not being media savvy. Unless you are suggesting he’s telling fibs?

    Comment by Guy Smiley — October 30, 2009 @ 8:27 am

  4. Did he say “I have a dream”.. at any stage?

    JC

    Comment by JC — October 30, 2009 @ 8:32 am

  5. I suppose it’s been effective marketing. And watching Labour lurch into angry conspiracy mode has been entertaining.

    Better to have mocked TVNZ but with Labour so gleefully pouncing on the incoherent babble coming from Bob Jones and Richard Prebble as omens of their imminent return to power I think all hope is lost.

    How Labour can be happy at the thought of relying on Winston Peters rising from the ashes to win the next election or can believe that winning a by-election in one of the safest seats in the country indicates that National is on the ropes is beyond mystery.

    Comment by Neil — October 30, 2009 @ 8:39 am

  6. reading a autocue is what most people do in front of a camera guy. must be grating for the left to see the right utilising nz on air paid channel air time for a change though!

    Comment by dontknowthat — October 30, 2009 @ 8:47 am

  7. dontknowthat:

    the point is that this isn’t something that was English’s idea. If English is to be believed that is. You seem keen to give him the credit for it though, which would crank the scandal up to 11.

    Comment by Pascal's Bookie — October 30, 2009 @ 10:03 am

  8. Pascal. That doesnt make any sense.

    I dont give English credit for anything except taking advantage of TV7s hospitality and desire to get some rating points.

    You seem pissed that the right is getting some air time out of TV7 instead of the left, for a change.

    Comment by dontknowthat — October 30, 2009 @ 10:07 am

  9. You seem pissed that the right is getting some air time out of TV7 instead of the left, for a change.

    I’ve never actually watched a single show on TV7 but I think that if they promoted a left-wing politician the way they’ve promoted English we’d have heard all about it.

    Comment by danylmc — October 30, 2009 @ 10:39 am

  10. @8

    “How dare english get media savvy and use tv7…”

    vs

    “I dont give English credit for anything except taking advantage “

    Comment by Pascal's Bookie — October 30, 2009 @ 10:48 am

  11. “I dont give English credit for anything except taking advantage “

    Thats rape in NZ.

    Although its long been the job description for any finance minister.

    JC

    Comment by JC — October 30, 2009 @ 10:59 am

  12. It’s like living in Italy and watching Channel Silvio Berlusconi, but without the trade-off: living in Italy.

    Comment by sammy — October 30, 2009 @ 11:43 am

  13. English should stick to selling Ponzi schemes!

    Comment by kerry — October 30, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

  14. So I was a bit surprised to see that their political editor – who is very smart and understands these issues very well – is fronting the debate.

    I didn’t know there was a TV7 until this week. It’s possible they knew *exactly* what they were doing.

    Comment by gazzaj — October 30, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

  15. Funny thing is, Michael Cullen did something similar when he was finance minister.

    Comment by Adolf Fiinkensein — October 31, 2009 @ 6:13 am

  16. Funny thing is, Michael Cullen did something similar when he was finance minister.

    Comment by Adolf Fiinkensein

    Can I haz a link or somefink to back up your claimz?

    Comment by andy — October 31, 2009 @ 7:21 am

  17. No Andy. Adolt don’t do proof, only spinnin’.

    Comment by Guy Smiley — October 31, 2009 @ 8:37 am

  18. Leave Espiner alone, he is just polishing his CV and is involved in the longest most public job interview eva!

    Hard to imagine Espiner taking a six figure pay cut to go work for the government. If he leaves TVNZ I assume it’ll be to set up a private lobby/PR company.

    Comment by Danyl Mclauchlan — October 31, 2009 @ 8:49 am

  19. I’ve never actually watched a single show on TV7 but I think that if they promoted a left-wing politician the way they’ve promoted English we’d have heard all about it.

    danylmac: Want to go back and count how many times Helen Clark and Michael Cullen got their mugs on TVNZ and RNZ promos, but virtue of being the Prime Minister and Finance Minister between 1998 and 2008?

    Back on planet Earth, Teddy Roosevelt was right. High office is one hell of a bully pulpit, and perhaps we should be expending a little more attention on why actual serious programming about the economy has been consigned to the digital ghetto while One has just given up on serious news and current affairs.

    Comment by Craig Ranapia — November 1, 2009 @ 12:58 am

  20. Move along, TVNZ never pandered to Labour, nothing to see.

    Look! Theres English raping TV7! Quick, lynch him.

    Comment by expat — November 1, 2009 @ 5:58 am


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