The Dim-Post

May 18, 2010

Four more years

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 12:52 pm

I/S is against extending the parliamentary term for four years:

A short Parliamentary term gives us accountability. It gives us the opportunity to change the government if we do not like their direction or their attitude. It gives us control. We yield that control to politicians at our peril.

I’m in favour of extending the term to four years because it gives us an opportunity to see if the polices implemented in the first two years of a government are actually working. The status quo is that the third year is another election and it’s not until the second term that we get to find out whether their policies are any good or not. I think that’s one of the main reasons we never get single term governments despite some of the truly awful governments we’ve had through the years.

The extensive polling conducted by both parties already gives us a measure of indirect control but I feel the three year term gives rise to the Judith Collins phenomenon: Ministers who see policy as an opportunity for favourable media coverage and improving their poll results but are indifferent to the actual efficacy or long term effects of those policies. If they were in power for four years they’d have to point to measurable outcomes – or the opposition could point to the lack thereof – and hopefully be a bit more prudent when they spend our money and write our laws.

17 Comments »

  1. I think that’s one of the main reasons we never get single term governments

    I would agrue Labour ’87-90 was a single term Government…

    Comment by Phil — May 18, 2010 @ 12:56 pm

  2. I agree with Nick Danyl.

    L

    Comment by Lew — May 18, 2010 @ 1:03 pm

  3. Danyl, why doesn’t strikethrough work on your blog?

    L

    Comment by Lew — May 18, 2010 @ 1:03 pm

  4. Strikethrough

    Strikethrough

    Strikethrough

    Comment by danylmc — May 18, 2010 @ 1:12 pm

  5. I see. So instead of being[s] it’s [del]. Thought it must be some sort of newfangled strict html, but no — your blog is transitional.

    So, in summary, I blame you. But you’re still right about the electoral term.

    Cheers,
    L

    Comment by Lew — May 18, 2010 @ 1:33 pm

  6. “If they were in power for four years they’d have to point to measurable outcomes – or the opposition could point to the lack thereof – and hopefully be a bit more prudent when they spend our money and write our laws.”

    Like they do in America?

    Comment by Pascal's bookie — May 18, 2010 @ 1:33 pm

  7. Danyl, although I see your point, we also have only one chamber where other countries have two. Don’t you think that if you have to face the voters only over 4 years, the policies would be a bit more radical? That’s something you appear to be very afraid of.

    Comment by Berend de Boer — May 18, 2010 @ 1:40 pm

  8. [...] No Right Turn is against, but the Dim Post is in favour. [...]

    Pingback by A four year term | Kiwiblog — May 18, 2010 @ 2:01 pm

  9. Lew: for the usage you were going for, a <del> element would be more semantically appropriate than <s>

    Comment by derp de derp — May 18, 2010 @ 2:09 pm

  10. One the one hand, in a uni-cameral system with few checks and balances a short term of government provides an important layer of accountability. On the other hand, four year terms allow the voter to see the consequences of an extra year of power in a uni-cameral system with few checks and balances…

    ummm, please get off my doorstep and go away.

    Comment by Sanctuary — May 18, 2010 @ 2:10 pm

  11. PB – you are aware there are elections in the US every 2 years, right?

    Comment by Eddie C — May 18, 2010 @ 3:14 pm

  12. I’m in favour of extending the term to four years because it gives us an opportunity to see if the polices implemented in the first two years of a government are actually working.

    Hey, if you only have elections once every decade then you can be double-dog absolutely certain. Never have the damn things at all, and you don’t have to trouble your mind with such trivia.

    Comment by Craig Ranapia — May 18, 2010 @ 4:21 pm

  13. Yes, then we can can co-incide elections with Rugby World Cups. Lost to the French again? Time for some new leadership!

    Comment by Brad — May 18, 2010 @ 4:38 pm

  14. Four years sounds great if you’re a list MP. Even better if you’re a leader of a one-man party.

    Comment by Pat — May 18, 2010 @ 5:04 pm

  15. Eddie, yeah, but I’ve not found Presidential (4 years) or Senate elections ( 6 for each senator) to be any more policy based than House ones. I’m just not convinced that it’s term length that cause the permanent campaign.

    Perhaps we should try banning political polling for 6 years and see what happens? I can’t see it would hurt anyone, and it would deprive poli journos a hook to hang the horse race on.

    Comment by Pascal's bookie — May 18, 2010 @ 5:58 pm

  16. [pedant hat] Actually, senate elections are every 2 years, as well. The term for each senator is 6 years, of course, but 1/3 of the senate is up for re-election every election. [/pedant hat]

    Comment by Eddie C — May 18, 2010 @ 6:52 pm

  17. I/S belongs to the wing of the left that would cut off a nose to spite someone’s face.

    Anyone arguing for shorter terms for parliament need only to look at the American “democracy”

    Comment by Badger — May 19, 2010 @ 12:41 am


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