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June 15, 2010

Signifying nothing

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 10:03 am

I’m pretty tired of Hone Hawawira’s ‘furious but not furious enough to do anything‘ routine he goes through every time his party concedes to the National government. This is just cynical politics: Harawira’s censure is beneficial to National – it’s voters hate him and see his anger as an indication that their party has done the right thing. And it lets the Maori Party pretend it has at least one member who speaks for those who don’t like their coalition choices which is obviously not the case.

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  1. They’ve all been exposed as a bunch of shysters taking the piss out of their voters.

    Comment by Sanctuary — June 15, 2010 @ 10:16 am

  2. Sanctuary, so you’re Tom Semmens, or just plagiarising him?

    L

    Comment by Lew — June 15, 2010 @ 10:26 am

  3. Lew, I must say I’d wondered that over the last couple of weeks, too.

    Comment by Eddie C — June 15, 2010 @ 11:21 am

  4. I think you’re right, Danyl. The Maori party’s supporters must be feeling very disheartened by now.

    Comment by Carol — June 15, 2010 @ 11:47 am

  5. Danyl – first of all I agree it is not unhelpful to have Hone rant it doesn’t go far enough.

    But I think he is genuine in saying he is angry that he did not get full Maori title to the F&S. He genuinely thinsk it does belong to Maori.

    So what should he do, apart from vent about it? Should he vote against the Govt’s legislation? As it does move things closer to the position Harawira wants, voting against it would be counter-productive.

    Should he remove confidence and support from the Govt, even though the alternative of a Labour-led Govt is not one he wants?

    Comment by dpf — June 15, 2010 @ 12:04 pm

  6. dpf: “…even though the alternative of a Labour-led Govt is not one he wants?”

    Actually, Hone Harawira on Morning Report said that further movement on this issue would have to wait until a future Labour Government, or maybe a Green Government, or possibly even an Act Government.

    Frankly, I don’t think he gives a shit who is at the helm of the nation so long as he gets what he wants (on behalf of his constituents, of course). Which is about as independent as you can get (without doing all that much about it).

    Comment by Andrew Geddis — June 15, 2010 @ 12:13 pm

  7. Abstention would be one option, and rather better than voting to replace “race-based nationalisation of private property” with “I can’t believe it’s not race-based nationalisation of private property”.

    Comment by JD — June 15, 2010 @ 12:13 pm

  8. Anything Hone Harawira says is white noise to me – I don’t have enough regard for him to notice his opinions.

    Comment by Ataahua — June 15, 2010 @ 1:40 pm

  9. Waiting for Hone to spin off and form The Real Maori Party.

    This is slightly off topic but recently discovered a small red blister with a white center on my neck, I picked the scab off it and it remained white in the middle and is now red and itchy round the edges I dont know what it is. can you help?

    Comment by Simon — June 15, 2010 @ 3:58 pm

  10. Abstention would be one option, and rather better than voting to replace “race-based nationalisation of private property” with “I can’t believe it’s not race-based nationalisation of private property”.

    But the legislation is going to declare universal recognition once and for all that the foreshore and seabed is mana tukuiho.

    Comment by Graeme Edgeler — June 15, 2010 @ 4:04 pm

  11. Graeme Edgeler wrote: “But the legislation is going to declare universal recognition once and for all that the foreshore and seabed is mana tukuiho.”

    what impact does declaring the foreshore and seabed to be ‘mana tukuiho’ have on the legal status of those bits of foreshore and seabed that people and organisations other than Iwi and Hapu own?

    Comment by kahikatea — June 15, 2010 @ 4:56 pm

  12. Doesn’t ‘mana tuku iho’ mean ‘universal recognition’?

    http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/repeal+foreshore+and+seabed+act+announced

    “The new proposal includes a new award as a result of consultation – universal recognition or mana tuku iho. This award will not require a court application or negotiation, but will recognise the mana of iwi and hapu in relation to the foreshore and seabed. It will codify best practice regarding iwi participation in conservation processes under statute.”

    Comment by har — June 15, 2010 @ 6:50 pm

  13. “9.Waiting for Hone to spin off and form The Real Maori Party.”?

    New Maori Party, surely?

    Comment by Clunking Fist — June 15, 2010 @ 10:10 pm

  14. CF, I think he was referring to the Real IRA.

    L

    Comment by Lew — June 15, 2010 @ 10:28 pm

  15. Oh, gottcha. So not simply a metter the Judean Peoples Front v the Peoples Front of Judea, then.

    Comment by Clunking Fist — June 16, 2010 @ 1:17 pm

  16. Well, it is really. But the spin was supposed to be a little more sinister than that, to be sure.

    L

    Comment by Lew — June 16, 2010 @ 1:24 pm


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