The Dim-Post

June 27, 2010

The anti-semitic dollar. Huge dollar!

Filed under: general idiocy — danylmc @ 7:55 am

The HoS reports:

A top TV star unleashed a racist outburst at a high-profile media event this week – claiming that “Jews were expendable”.

David Fane, one of the creators of bro’Town, told an audience including Jason Gunn, Mike Hosking, Kate Hawkesby and John Tamihere, that “Hitler had a right” and HIV sufferers deserved to be “roasted”.

Fane made the tirade on Wednesday night at the inaugural Radio Roast at the exclusive Northern Club in Auckland.

He said: “You are the worst motherf*****s in the world, you agency guys,” referring to advertising bosses in the audience.

He said: “I want to eat you, but I won’t because I don’t want to get HIV. Would you roast an HIV person? You’d roast them because they’re expendable. Like the Jews. Hitler had a right, you know.”

“You’ve all got f****** Aids, c****!”

I don’t want to be defending Fane because (a) his comments aren’t very funny and (b) it sounds as if he’s ripping off a Bill Hicks routine in which Hicks begged any advertising executives in the audience to commit suicide. But it sounds as if the comments about Jews are opinions he’s attributing to imaginary evil advertising executives, not himself. I could be wrong but it’s always tricky when you try and take offense at something a comedian says during a routine in which they might be in character.

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18 Comments »

  1. Also the Bill Hicks routine – Hitler had the right idea he was just an underachiever

    Comment by John — June 27, 2010 @ 10:18 am

  2. As an aside I think Bro Town is one of the most racist shows on TV, its funny because it panders to racist stereotypes. But its all ok because its brown people telling the jokes.

    Comment by John — June 27, 2010 @ 10:19 am

  3. Still trying to figure out if `Anti-Semetic’ is a typo, or a very cunning reference which I just can’t get…
    Yours in bewilderment

    Comment by Leopold — June 27, 2010 @ 10:27 am

  4. I’m pretty sure the point of a roast is to be as offensive as possible…

    Comment by garethw — June 27, 2010 @ 11:56 am

  5. I wasn’t there, so don’t know the full quote, but isn’t calling anti-AIDS statements “homophobic” just a whole different type of anti-gay prejudice?

    Comment by Graeme Edgeler — June 27, 2010 @ 12:11 pm

  6. I thought the point of a roast was to be offensive.. yes, but also funny. Where’s the humour in this lot?

    JC

    Comment by JC — June 27, 2010 @ 1:29 pm

  7. “I wasn’t there, so don’t know the full quote, but isn’t calling anti-AIDS statements “homophobic” just a whole different type of anti-gay prejudice?” – Graeme

    Yep. And a super own goal from the Aids foundation.

    Comment by J Mex — June 27, 2010 @ 4:49 pm

  8. From the looks of it, he was pissed up. The comments don’t make any sense (perhaps misquoted?).

    Either that, or he got seriously annoyed at his audience and was channeling the equivalent of Michael Richards (a.k.a Kramer)

    Or both.

    Comment by J Mex — June 27, 2010 @ 5:06 pm

  9. isn’t calling anti-AIDS statements “homophobic” just a whole different type of anti-gay prejudice?

    Possibly not. Suppose you ask Fane why he says that ad agency people have HIV (or AIDS), and he replies, “because they’re faggots.” Clearly bigoted. Someone might read this as implied in what Fane said – that’s a dog-whistle that’s certainly not unheard of.

    Comment by derp de derp — June 27, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

  10. The follow up part is here.

    Bill Hicks – Positive Drug Story

    Comment by Andy C — June 27, 2010 @ 11:38 pm

  11. sounds pretty funny to me… but then again I think Bill Hicks was one of the greatest ever.

    Comment by ben — June 28, 2010 @ 10:21 am

  12. I can’t say if it’s funny or not because everyone just keeps repeating the punchlines instead of the whole bit.

    It’s like walking around the office saying things like: “To get to the other side!” or, “Two in the back, two in the front and fifty in the ashtray”, or “There’s footprints in the butter”.

    Otherwise, we’re apparently living in a world now where you can’t make jokes about Jews, AIDS, or advertising executives. And as everyone knows, at least two of those things are fucking hilarious. You can’t even do it with a deep sense of irony, and at a roast, without later capitulating to pressure from hacks desperate for some sense of scandal and non-profit groups with their own agenda – which is, incidentally, normalising or defending the things you’re making jokes about.

    Because of its size, people in NZ need to be careful, otherwise humour of all kinds will be drowned out by the screaming sounds of minority groups being offended at exactly the kind of jokes that you wouldn’t be telling to anyone that isn’t in your intended audience. Someone hears something at somewhere and suddenly it’s headline news, alongside the dairy who wouldn’t redeem the free Mars bar some guy won in Taranaki.

    Then we’re in the territory of “I didn’t hear it myself, but I heard about it, and it didn’t sound funny,” and then your humour is reduced to what little desperate laughs you can get out of Go Girls – it’s funny because I imagine I’m just like them! – and suddenly you’re watching Two And A Half Men and thinking that John Campbell comes out with some nifty one-liners.

    Then you’d never get a Hitler Moustache, would you? Jimmy Carr wouldn’t exist and Frankie Boyle and Tommy Tiernan would never work again.

    So frankly, you can all fuck off. You didn’t hear it. You didn’t hear the context. You just heard what was quoted in the Herald on Sunday and some generic outrage. So you don’t have the right to judge because you don’t have any information except that Fane should be very, very, sorry.

    If this the attitude you get for telling jokes at a roast, no wonder the first thing New Zealand’s greatest talents do is turn themselves into NZ’s greatest exports.

    Comment by dontsurf — June 28, 2010 @ 6:39 pm

  13. Dontsurf, this was not a roast. In a roast, the subject of the roast sits there and grins while people insult him/her, to show what a good sport they are. Not an option available to the victims of the Holocaust or Aids.

    If this really was intended to be a roast, Fane’s job was to insult the people in the room who worked for ad agencies. He is a professional comedian. There are many ways one could wittily insult ad agency types. Presumably he was paid to be there. In half an hour I could come up with half a dozen jokes about these people to be delivered in the three minutes he had. So there is no excuse for what he said.

    David Fane is a good thing, but being drunk is never an excuse.

    Comment by Stephen Stratford — June 28, 2010 @ 10:44 pm

  14. I find it deliciously ironic that Mediaworks has suspended Fane for a week, while Messers Laws, Tamihere and Jackson can spew our whatever batshit drivel crosses what I shall charitably call their minds without consequence.

    Comment by Craig Ranapia — June 28, 2010 @ 11:44 pm

  15. Dontsurf, this was not a roast. In a roast, the subject of the roast sits there and grins while people insult him/her, to show what a good sport they are. Not an option available to the victims of the Holocaust or Aids.

    If this really was intended to be a roast, Fane’s job was to insult the people in the room who worked for ad agencies. He is a professional comedian. There are many ways one could wittily insult ad agency types. Presumably he was paid to be there. In half an hour I could come up with half a dozen jokes about these people to be delivered in the three minutes he had. So there is no excuse for what he said.

    David Fane is a good thing, but being drunk is never an excuse.

    Comment by Stephen Stratford

    Oh, you were there?

    No, you weren’t, were you. Reserve opinion until you’ve seen the video. Otherwise you’re just another handjob rattling out an opinion on the grounds of “I heard”.

    Comment by dontsurf — June 29, 2010 @ 10:15 am

  16. I’ve finally got around to watching the Bill Hicks segment:finally I understand where David Fane was going (perhaps?? I wasn’t there). However, through all this I’ve been wondering what the …. nothing reported was at all funny and DF is a very funny guy so where was the funny in all this? It had to be a little bit off report really, hadn’t it? Yesterday, someone chatting to Jim Mora made the point that the guy is a comedian, so get over it. And I agree. Get over it. I want to hear the whole gig not just the bits about Aids, HIV, etc.

    Keep on Dave, keep on making me laugh anyway you can ….

    Comment by Stephanie Chilcott — June 30, 2010 @ 6:05 am

  17. “However, through all this I’ve been wondering what the …. nothing reported was at all funny and DF is a very funny guy so where was the funny in all this? It had to be a little bit off report really, hadn’t it?”

    I’m open to the possibility that the reporting so far doesn’t tell the whole story, but you’re saying the reporting is clearly wrong just because you personally find David Fane very funny? Uhm…

    Comment by Sam Finnemore — June 30, 2010 @ 9:08 am

  18. I think it’s actually the anti-semiotics dollar….

    Comment by Mr February — July 1, 2010 @ 10:38 pm


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