The Dim-Post

July 28, 2010

Lawful evil

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 6:48 pm

I think Collins is probably the worst Minister in the current government. Some of the National Ministers are outstanding, others average, some stupid, some blinded by ideology. Collins is the only one that seems to hate most of the principles our society is based on – in this case that the police be subject to public scrutiny and held accountable for their actions – and be actively working to turn New Zealand into a more authoritarian, less liberal society. The only thing slowing her down is she’s even more interested in cheap media stunts and raising her own profile than she is in making the country a worse place to live.

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  1. Funny how if your a police officer you can beat people up, expose your genitals to a mother and child and drive drunk with impunity. Its all the PC brigade and media’s fault for the lack of respect for Police in NZ.

    Police Association president Greg O’Connor has done more harm defending this crap to the image of NZ police than even Clint Rickards did. It is an organisation that needs a top down review of the good and the bad, royal commission anyone.

    Police have an image problem and Police 10 seven and motorway patrol are the only outlets that shows what it is really like for our police, programs that do little to stop the 6pm news drumbeat of ‘crime taking over our streets’…..

    Policing is a shitty job, and we need to treat the people who do it better and give them better tools and resources and stop kicking them like political footballs.

    Comment by andy (the other one) — July 28, 2010 @ 7:08 pm

  2. perhaps if the crims spent more time watching TV news than crankin up they’d actually be less likely to attack cops. the effects on the brain might be just about the same tho.

    but, what ever happened to personal responsibility.

    Comment by NeilM — July 28, 2010 @ 7:14 pm

  3. Police have an image problem

    says who?

    Comment by NeilM — July 28, 2010 @ 7:17 pm

  4. says who?

    Collins for a start,
    Road policing as revenue gathering,
    Police getting off crimes you or I would be convicted of like drink driving,exposing genitals to mother and child, bashing people,
    Shooting innocent people by accident.

    what ever happened to personal responsibility.

    It got tossed in the ditch to die after the collapse of Bridgecorp and Hanover finance.

    Comment by andy (the other one) — July 28, 2010 @ 7:34 pm

  5. There are certain predictable leitmotifs in politics, and one that irritates me more than most is the “mea culpa” after a politician has retired, when they tell us that something they did was wrong, which in fact they knew perfectly well all along (see e.g. Don Brash on civil unions, etc).

    There’s one, some time after 2011, which will have me reaching for the sick bucket. It will be Dr Pita Sharples, apologising for the policies he supported as the ever loyal Associate Minister to Judith Collins, queen of the mass incarcerations.

    Let me save you some time, Pita: You took the job. Tore up everything you ever stood for. Now tear up your apology, it’s worth fuck all.

    Comment by sammy — July 28, 2010 @ 7:38 pm

  6. Damn the media – not pulling their weight creating a respectful harmonious society.

    Comment by Matthew — July 28, 2010 @ 7:52 pm

  7. As I very quickly said over at our place Danyl, the comments are bizarre to say the least. As is usual with blogging, I offered a brainfart without no real reasons why, but you’ve offered some.

    Comment by Gooner — July 28, 2010 @ 7:55 pm

  8. Policing is bloody hard, at times dangerous, and dirty work.
    It always has been, and,I suspect, always will be.

    There are very few people in the media world deserving of respect. They have to provide the fillers between the advertisements that pay their wages.

    To blame the media for “disrespect” for the police is naive (at best).

    Anyone that stupid should not be in Parliament. (There are one or two other names spring to mind, as well.)

    Comment by peterlepaysan — July 28, 2010 @ 8:18 pm

  9. There are very few people in the media world deserving of respect.

    Maybe I’m biased because my wife works in the media but there are a number of journalists – Kitchin, say, who Collins is obliquely referring to – who could easily move into PR and pick up an extra $100,000 a year but don’t because they think it’s important that the public be informed about what’s happening in our country.

    Comment by danylmc — July 28, 2010 @ 8:33 pm

  10. Just the other day someone mentioned to me that Collins looks like “the bastard daughter of Robert Muldoon”. Just saying.

    Comment by IrishBill — July 28, 2010 @ 8:57 pm

  11. Wouldn’t it be awesome if there were a team of clerics at the doors of the Beehive taking shifts casting Detect Evil and barring entry?

    First best, only Chaotic Good is allowed in. But I’m flexible.

    It would be mildly interesting to map out the existing parties in D&D alignment space rather than the usual ideological space.

    Comment by Eric Crampton — July 28, 2010 @ 9:09 pm

  12. I always thought that Judith Collins was like the bad pre-release version of Katherine Rich. Unfortunately the finished product, who people from all parties respected, got sick of Don Brash’s shit and quit Parliament, and they were stuck with Collins instead.

    Comment by Eddie C — July 28, 2010 @ 10:18 pm

  13. Eric: Paladins can Detect Evil, can’t they? And they would have the advantage of being able to Smite Evil.

    Comment by derp de derp — July 28, 2010 @ 10:43 pm

  14. …because they think it’s important that the public be informed about what’s happening in our country.

    well that’s just going to severely antagonise a lot of already very angry men with guns who will just go out and shoot cops. Because they always act on the best info available.

    Meanwhile middle class liberals and left-wing activits will fall over themselves to praise the police.

    Comment by NeilM — July 28, 2010 @ 10:46 pm

  15. I’m not sure if she’s the worst: what about paula bennett or anne tolley… anyone care for a poll?

    Comment by matthew — July 28, 2010 @ 11:15 pm

  16. What – no male MP’s?

    Some of you here have a severe supressed sexual anger thing goin on, in a power-dressed women, Catholic School, nuns-in-charge kinda way.

    Comment by Pat — July 28, 2010 @ 11:25 pm

  17. I always thought that Judith Collins was like the bad pre-release version of Katherine Rich. Unfortunately [she] got sick of Don Brash’s shit and quit Parliament, and they were stuck with Collins instead.

    Katherine Rich outlasted Don Brash in Parliament by almost two years.

    Comment by Graeme Edgeler — July 29, 2010 @ 8:32 am

  18. Brownlee, McCully, English…. the shit list is endless and gender neutral. If any of these goons were leading National they’d immediately drop 10 point in the polls.

    Comment by The Fox — July 29, 2010 @ 8:38 am

  19. Graeme – and quit after saying that the turn the party had taken under Brash (including her being demoted by him) was the main factor in her quitting. I know you like pedantry, but it doesn’t always provide a complete answer.

    Comment by Eddie C — July 29, 2010 @ 8:41 am

  20. @Derp: Yeah, sure, a paladin could do it. But where are you going to find one of those in this country?

    Comment by Eric Crampton — July 29, 2010 @ 9:15 am

  21. “Road policing as revenue gathering,”

    Isn’t this an image that National actively pushed while in opposition, to the point of running television ads about it? Perhaps they need to look at themselves before blaming the media.

    Comment by JB — July 29, 2010 @ 10:15 am

  22. Sarah Paladin could see evil from her porch, you betcha

    Comment by insider — July 29, 2010 @ 10:22 am


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