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October 23, 2010

CTU launches charm offensive, desecrates grave of Sir Edmund Hillary

Filed under: satire — danylmc @ 8:12 am

In the wake of sharp public criticism over its handling of contract negotiations around The Hobbit the Council of Trade Unions has launched a public relations campaign aimed at rehabilitating the organisation’s image. CTU President Helen Kelly has promised New Zealanders they will be ‘wowed’ by a series of industrial strikes planned to disrupt the rugby world cup next year and has violated the grave of revered mountain climber Sir Edmund Hillary during a live press conference.

‘This shows the public that the union movement is about more than being a voice for working people, conducting fair and equitable negotiations between equal parties and destroying the capital owning parasites like Hillary and Jackson, and also Hayley Westenra who has it coming to her,’ Helen Kelly announced while digging, pausing to pose for cameras and spit on the grave.

‘Like most Kiwis we have nothing but contempt for Hillary and his achievements,’ Kelly said hitching up her skirt and squatting on Sir Edmund’s skeleton while onlookers and supporters cheered and sang We Shall not be Moved. ‘This sends a signal to the public that we share their values.’

Kelly later explained that she was on a high protein, high fibre diet.

‘Although Hillary did support the labour movement for many decades let us not forget that he also lived in Remuera,’ Kelly added, spray-painting a picture of a penis on the tombstone. ‘Fairness! Respect! Solidarity!’

Subsequent to the desecration Kelly and senior union delegates burned a huge pile of five dollar notes, which bear Sir Edmund’s image. According to a statement released by the union the bonfire was unrelated to the Hillary protest and is customary practise at CTU events.

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65 Comments »

  1. See now here’e the thing leon: Danyl’s post was really funny. Yours? Yeah well nah.

    Comment by Guy Smiley — October 23, 2010 @ 8:36 am

  2. Oh you’re probably right Guy but I’m wetting myself that the CTU, Labours money machine and activist arm, has deep sixed the Labour Party in the polls.

    Will try and regain composure.

    Comment by leon — October 23, 2010 @ 8:50 am

  3. Employment lawyer reading over my shoulder and chortling in my ear.

    Comment by Ben — October 23, 2010 @ 8:56 am

  4. I hate it when you pick on my team Danyl.

    Comment by k.jones — October 23, 2010 @ 9:08 am

  5. A friend (very union friendly) made this same observation to me yesterday over a drink.

    It was along the lines of – “Next we’ll be targeting Pine Tree Meads, Sir Ed, the Evers-Swindell twins and Sarah Ulmer – That’ll help with our public image! There are some things that NZers just don’t want you to F##k with, and ‘Middle Earth’ and Peter Jackson are two of them”

    Pretty much.

    Comment by J Mex — October 23, 2010 @ 9:15 am

  6. Before anyone corrects me, yeah – I know that Sir Ed was cremated.

    There are some things that NZers just don’t want you to F##k with, and ‘Middle Earth’ and Peter Jackson are two of them

    It’s not like Jackson should be immune from industrial relations, but when you’re going up against a high profile, super-high risk target like him you pick your fight and you pick your moment, and the CTU did neither. The government is probably going to declare open season on employment law now, an opportunity that is entirely Kelly’s fault.

    Also, I wrote this shortly after I started the blog:

    http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/peter-jackson-to-film-95-hour-adaptation-of-silmarillion/

    Comment by danylmc — October 23, 2010 @ 9:25 am

  7. um, I don’t want to have to be the one to point out basic temporal facts but when Jackson blew this dispute up on Thursday it had already been settled for nearly a week: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10682389

    Which kind of make me think it was more Peter Jackson attacking the union than vice versa.

    Comment by IrishBill — October 23, 2010 @ 9:29 am

  8. Nice.

    I take it that Nicholas Robert Gravel went on to become a Dim Post staff reporter? Fucking outstanding comment.

    Comment by J Mex — October 23, 2010 @ 9:31 am

  9. The government is probably going to declare open season on employment law now, an opportunity that is entirely Kelly’s fault.

    Given that the people in question aren’t employees, I’m not sure that make any sense, even from their perspective. The only law change I can see actually helping to resolve a situation like this would be one allowing contractors to collectivise. Which is what Helen Kelly wants.

    Comment by Graeme Edgeler — October 23, 2010 @ 9:43 am

  10. Hey Irish, back up there. Wishing doesn’t make it so. You are talking about emails that the CTU has not released, between an Australian Union and a USA Studio. They never even touched NZ’s shores, and we have not idea what has been taken out of context or misrepresented. To put it another way, are these the emails that confirm Robyn Malcolm need police security to deal with being assaulted?

    Let’s see the emails then. The Union has a history of misrepresentation and abuse on this one.

    Comment by Vibenna — October 23, 2010 @ 9:47 am

  11. The Herald states they’ve seen the emails as does radio NZ: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/60105/warning-hobbit-unrest-putting-nz-industry-at-risk. Or do you think they’re in on the conspiracy too?

    And the US studio involved in the emails is the same studio that the producers are claiming wants to pull the film because of the dispute. Despite the studio knowing the dispute was settled.

    Comment by IrishBill — October 23, 2010 @ 9:59 am

  12. Come on Irish – who was the sender? Who was the recipient? What was the subject line? What did they actually say?

    If the CTU has the emails, what is to stop them releasing them?

    Comment by Vibenna — October 23, 2010 @ 10:01 am

  13. Well Irish? How an the studio defend itself if it can’t see the basis of the accusations? Cat got your tongue?

    Comment by Vibenna — October 23, 2010 @ 10:09 am

  14. Danyl, basic issue of fact here. The CTU did not pick this fight or choose the strategy, it entered the fray when it had already gone to custard to try to find a solution. They’re bound to help affiliates when they get themselves in trouble and personally I’m glad that some people with experience have stepped in to talk some sense into Actors Equity.

    Comment by Maximilian Pflaum — October 23, 2010 @ 10:10 am

  15. Much like the signature on the trading slip prior to the last election – vapour ain’t it Bill.

    Comment by blackspy — October 23, 2010 @ 10:11 am

  16. Preparing a press release by email is not the same as releasing the press release. PR bullshit is prepared all the time behind the scenes, in the event of the act taking place.

    Helen Kelly is just trying to lie her way out of the massive hole she has dug for herself, “the unions”, and her gormless actor mates.

    Im waiting for her to start referring to the government as “the gummint.”

    Comment by GN — October 23, 2010 @ 10:12 am

  17. Max,

    If that’s how the CTU enters into a dispute gone bad in order to calm the situation down I’d hate to see what their strategy is if they *really* want to fuck an entire industry.

    Comment by blackspy — October 23, 2010 @ 10:13 am

  18. I think we’ll see the emails being released at some stage. I’d imagine there’s a lot of backroom wrangling going on at the moment and that none of the parties involved will want to show all their cards yet. Be patient and we’ll see what happens over the next week.

    Comment by IrishBill — October 23, 2010 @ 10:15 am

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  20. If the CTU had any decency they’d apologise and withdraw immediately promising to STF and to never get involved in this production again while simultaneously botoxing Robyn Malcolm so much she is unable to speak.

    Comment by blackspy — October 23, 2010 @ 10:20 am

  21. Irish, why should we be patient when The Standard has climbed on the union bandwagon to launch despicable smears of Sir Peter? Be patient, while you act that way? Be patient while you help to wreck an industry? Be patient while you show that you think anybody rich is a bastard, not matter what somebody does for New Zealand?

    Even Gaddafi saw the value of the National Capitalist Class. You appear to be to left of him. I will not be patient. Put up or shut up and apologize.

    Comment by Vibenna — October 23, 2010 @ 10:29 am

  22. Be patient and we’ll see what happens over the next week.

    will it take you that long to get the anti-Hillary campaign together?

    Keep digging but I don’t think AE, CTU and MEAA need too much assistance doing that.

    Comment by NeilM — October 23, 2010 @ 10:32 am

  23. God almighty, haven’t we had enough of this slow moving middle class train wreck already? It is like watching the facebook breakup of a 30 something Les Mills personal trainer who has discovered her husband is fucking a nineteen year old.

    Comment by Sanctuary — October 23, 2010 @ 10:59 am

  24. Perhaps there’s a flavor of the trolldom coming through here. Bigg ups for Irish Bill having stayed with polite and appropriate manners…
    and Danyl, just for once I failed to find the post funny which is exceeding strange and unusual as you are one of the most droll bloggers in enzed :-)

    Comment by Pdogge — October 23, 2010 @ 11:09 am

  25. [...] Nice work Dim-Post In the wake of sharp public criticism over its handling of contract negotiations around The Hobbit the Council of Trade Unions has launched a public relations campaign aimed at rehabilitating the organisation’s image. CTU President Helen Kelly has promised New Zealanders they will be ‘wowed’ by a series of industrial strikes planned to disrupt the rugby world cup next year and has violated the grave of revered mountain climber Sir Edmund Hillary … Read More [...]

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  26. Bahahahaha

    Comment by Adze — October 23, 2010 @ 11:37 am

  27. Yeah, move on people nothing to see here except a ‘middle class train wreck’ like the loss of jobs and an entire industry. How absolutely inane.

    Comment by blackspy — October 23, 2010 @ 11:41 am

  28. Bigg ups for Irish Bill having stayed with polite and appropriate manners…

    your are aware of the poisonous statements being made about Peter jackosn by IB and the comrades over at The Standard? Not just Jackson but (union) workers not following the Party line.

    Comment by NeilM — October 23, 2010 @ 11:56 am

  29. Not just Jackson but (union) workers not following the Party line.

    Well obviously. If you don’t follow the party line, it’s not really a union. Unions and unionists consider that union members (and non-union members) who don’t follow the party line are scabs.

    Comment by Graeme Edgeler — October 23, 2010 @ 12:19 pm

  30. Unions and unionists consider that union members (and non-union members) who don’t follow the party line are scabs.

    If by “don’t follow the party line” you mean “carry out the tasks of fellow workers during a strike,” then yes that’s true. Otherwise, no it’s not.

    Comment by Psycho Milt — October 23, 2010 @ 12:31 pm

  31. All this indicates is the shallow gene-pool we are drawing from, and what happens when the public is forced to actually recognise the limited arsenal of strategies these morons actually have at their disposal – not so much because the arsenal itself is limited, mind but because their imaginations are.

    Comment by Monkey Boy — October 23, 2010 @ 12:35 pm

  32. Frankly I’m surprised to read such an illiberal and ill-informed statement from you, Graeme.

    I don’t like the word scab at all. It’s got no place in an industrial relations environment where workers have their access to union representation limited by contract law and disconnected from their rights.

    What I do believe is that actors and their union have taken a hiding from a powerful and well-organised employer for simply trying to get some decent minimum standards (albeit doing so somewhat ineptly). I don’t think that’s fair.

    Comment by IrishBill — October 23, 2010 @ 12:47 pm

  33. If on Monday Gerry Brownlee announced that was using his emergency powers to permanently dissolve the CTU and NZ Actors Equity, most of the country would be cheering from the rooftops.

    Comment by SHG — October 23, 2010 @ 1:12 pm

  34. We can but hope SHG.

    Comment by blackspy — October 23, 2010 @ 1:46 pm

  35. “…What I do believe is that actors and their union have taken a hiding from a powerful and well-organised employer for simply trying to get some decent minimum standards (albeit doing so somewhat ineptly)…”

    This is what sticks in my craw about this whole fiasco – New Zealand business can fuck royally to the tune of billions of dollars time after time after time after time after time… And it might rate a mention or two from Russell Brown or Danyl. One small, under-resourced union fighting the good fight for its members makes some mistakes? WHOA! HOLD THE FRONT PAGE FOR A WEEK! No piece of scathing satire is bad enough for the union – they must be crushed beneath the torrent of judgmental scorn of clever middle class wordsmiths.

    And you ask yourself why? It is partially the reflexive anti-collectivism and authoritarianism of our middle class. But it is also the greed and avarice and petty jealousies and vendettas of our spoilt petit-bourgeois on display in all it’s glory. Given the rancor, squabbling and individual spitefulness that has characterised this whole sorry dispute you are forced to wonder whether or not rampant egomania (starting with Peter Jackson and working down) isn’t the biggest player in the over-reactions to this dispute.

    That is why in my view the only people in this dispute who have behaved at all professionally or like grown adults have been Helen Kelly and, it seems, Bill English (a man who I can’t stand, but it seems someone smart enough to spot when he is being played).

    Comment by Sanctuary — October 23, 2010 @ 2:04 pm

  36. Kelly? Professional? Like I said in another discussion, they moment a newspaper quotes you describing the most beloved living New Zealander a “spoilt brat”, you’ve lost. That’s not professional, that’s stupid. Professionalism is NOT being videotaped having dinner at a flash restaurant with an AUSTRALIAN union boss and then walking out past worried movie technicians like you’re Margaret Thatcher staunching out the miners.

    If that’s professionalism, I’d hate to see incompetence.

    Comment by SHG — October 23, 2010 @ 2:06 pm

  37. The CTU intervention came after the boycott was begun – and therefore before the fracas began as well. To my mind, describing Peter Jackson’s meglomaniac tendencies as the actions of a “spoilt brat” is being charitable to the man. The CTU walked in a snakepit of back-biting egotists and has tried to manage an outcome that saves the Hobbit for this country, without selling out our sovereignty or our workers rights.

    For this they’ve been caught in a cross fire of anti-union rabble rousing from extremist right wing authoritarians like Emploers and Manufacturers Association, who seem to see in all this an opportunity to create an anti-worker police state.

    Comment by Sanctuary — October 23, 2010 @ 2:15 pm

  38. *and therefore AFTER the fracas began as well…

    Comment by Sanctuary — October 23, 2010 @ 2:16 pm

  39. whether it’s MGM, or Actors Equity, or Warner Brothers, or Ireland’s tax breaks that have put The Hobbit under threat, people seem to be pretty angry. If Allan Hubbard had done it, people would be marching in the streets to support him.

    Comment by kahikatea — October 23, 2010 @ 2:17 pm

  40. wow, go freedom of association eh guys? never mind the union won conditions that you enjoy. f*cktards…

    Comment by chris — October 23, 2010 @ 2:38 pm

  41. If by “don’t follow the party line” you mean “carry out the tasks of fellow workers during a strike,” then yes that’s true. Otherwise, no it’s not.

    Being a scab isn’t just about doing the work of striking workers. Anyone who benefits from the terms of a collective negotiated by a union without paying dues is a scab. And anyone who crosses a picket is a scab – as we saw when people were protesting at the Labour Party conference because of the terror raids; and when library staff at Victoria University picketed the library and harassed not workers, but students trying to enter. etc. etc.

    Comment by Graeme Edgeler — October 23, 2010 @ 2:45 pm

  42. Sanctuary – youre on bang on friend – thanks for the context. I was trying to think of a paralell universe type example of this situation. Say, the “Midfield Backs Union” of the all blacks requesting terms and conditions from the RFU. Suddenly the IRB and Heineken and Addidas threaten to shift the World Cup to Antigua…

    Comment by k.jones — October 23, 2010 @ 2:49 pm

  43. Matterhorn is not really that flash – if it was Bosley’s it would be different.

    By the way, the number of jobs ‘at stake’ if ‘The Hobbit’ moves overseas is less than the jobs cut from the public sector by our current government. What is decimating Wellington will not be the loss of extras that won’t get $85 dollar a day contract work as Orcs; it will be the number of highly qualified middle income earners that have lost their full-time jobs in government departments all around the city.

    This bullshit that the whole film industry is on a knife edge is also ridiculous. It is a means by which they can extract an even bigger tax incentive from the government – which will no doubt follow over the next week. All the pre-prod work, and most of the post-prod work will still be completed here – these are the people that actually earn decent money.

    It would seem from the media coverage we are happy being ‘Mexicans with cell phones.’ If the only reason the film industry wants to come to New Zealand is our low wage, poorly protected work force, it does not really say a lot for the industry – or how sustainable it will be over the long term. The future would seem to hinge on us ensuring that the actors continue to have no rights and poor pay. Competing with Eastern Europe as a film location will end up being a bit like competing with India for call-centre work…

    I don’t know, but maybe actually investing in research and development and building a knowledge economy that is not reliant on low wages and poor working conditions might be how we want to go. Not trying to compete with poor Slavic countries for the crumbs of a glamour industry..

    Comment by Tim — October 23, 2010 @ 3:32 pm

  44. Okay it’s now very clear. People like Sanctuary resile from nothing, think Peter Jackson is an asshole, and keep repeating the outright lies about it all being studio plot. Can we please get them onto National television to keep repeating this? I think the whole country needs to see, repeatedly, how envy and ideology is turning the unions into a purely destructive force.

    The simple lesson – from the unions point of view, individual success is simply theft from the workers.

    Comment by Vibenna — October 23, 2010 @ 3:34 pm

  45. Anyone who benefits from the terms of a collective negotiated by a union without paying dues is a scab.

    A freeloader or free rider, yes – a scab, no.

    And anyone who crosses a picket is a scab – as we saw when people were protesting at the Labour Party conference because of the terror raids; and when library staff at Victoria University picketed the library and harassed not workers, but students trying to enter. etc. etc.

    The fact that some workers seem to have no idea what ‘scab’ means is no recommendation for the rest of us to assist in degrading its meaning down to “someone a unionist disagrees with.”

    Comment by Psycho Milt — October 23, 2010 @ 3:37 pm

  46. Psycho Milt – Chris Trotter explicitly called Public Address rats and scabs for disagreeing with the CTU/NZAE/MEAA approach.

    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2010/10/public-appeal-to-public-address.html

    Comment by Vibenna — October 23, 2010 @ 3:47 pm

  47. Since we’re debating the exact definition of ‘scab’, perhaps I could offer my coal-miner father’s definition.

    Workers who cross picket lines. And wharfies, all size and shape – the hagiography of the ’51 strike always omits to mention that the miners went out with the wharfies on the clear understanding that the wharfies would return the favour when the miners struck for safer conditions and, of course, more pay. The wharfies weasled. Or scabbed, as Dad would so fondly say whenever Ma’s wharfie relatives were within a 5-mile radius. (They didn’t dare come any closer).

    Comment by mary — October 23, 2010 @ 4:57 pm

  48. “By the way, the number of jobs ‘at stake’ if ‘The Hobbit’ moves overseas is less than the jobs cut from the public sector by our current government. What is decimating Wellington will not be the loss of extras that won’t get $85 dollar a day contract work as Orcs; it will be the number of highly qualified middle income earners that have lost their full-time jobs in government departments all around the city.”

    Bet you didn’t have the balls to say it to the 1500 lowly skilled ‘orc extras’ protesting yesterday? Apart from those employed by govnt departments most of NZ doesn’t give two squirts of piss about fired policy analysts.

    Comment by 'sup — October 23, 2010 @ 5:31 pm

  49. What I do believe is that actors and their union have taken a hiding from a powerful and well-organised employer for simply trying to get some decent minimum standards (albeit doing so somewhat ineptly). I don’t think that’s fair. Comment by IrishBill — October 23, 2010 @ 12:47 pm

    This is bollocks. Talk to anyone who has worked for PJ (Robynne Malcom included) and they will tell you that Peter Jackson is an excellent employer. That conditions are excellent and pay is excellent. PJ was already offering residuals to Union and Non union members on the movie. Peter’s main problem seems to be allowing the Australians and a union of NZ actors dictate terms for all actors on his movie.

    Has anyone read this?

    http://www.mania.com/peter-jacksons-reaction-to-union-threats_article_125381.html

    This is an entirely reasonable response. I have not seen a communication from the 100 actor union explaining exactly what they want, other than to dictate terms for all actors on the Hobbit.

    Comment by J Mex — October 23, 2010 @ 5:55 pm

  50. My theory is that there’s been a lack of responsible leadership on the centre left since Clark left and that vacuum has been filled by a more militant and less nuanced type.

    Looking at the few comments by Labour MPs at RedAlert they’re all on the the union’s side. There’s no intelligent leadership coming from there.

    A mind set of class warfare amongst the union leadership has had no challangers and that’s basically been very damaging to the centre left. But when Labour spends its time trying to destroy the maori party, smoozing the Hubbard cult and turning econmics into a series empty stunts a swith GST it’s not surprising that they completely miss the boat on the important ussues.

    it’s a theory anyway.

    Comment by NeilM — October 23, 2010 @ 6:34 pm

  51. “it’s a theory anyway.”

    In the same way creationism is a theory, yes.

    Comment by Guy Smiley — October 23, 2010 @ 9:27 pm

  52. no, it’s evolution that’s supposed to be just a theory, creationism is supposed to be fact.

    Comment by NeilM — October 23, 2010 @ 9:47 pm

  53. Frankly any union supporter that isn’t saying “nothing wrong with collectively trying to set minimum conditions for the industry nationally, but mindlessly (and ineptly, illegally…) targeting the most significant production of recent times from a man that has huge national respect and was actually likely to provide terms that looked a lot like what you’d want (if you could even begin to articulate that) with a massively antagonistic campaign to undermine stability is just a ridiculously terrible approach that suggests utter ineptitude” is really without any credibility.
    Probably out of breath too as that’s quite a mouthful…

    Comment by garethw — October 23, 2010 @ 10:13 pm

  54. “A mind set of class warfare amongst the union leadership….”

    Yes, the vanguard of the revolution shall be led by thespians from dark satanic mill of Matterhorn where they slave on expense account.

    This is sure to raise the class consciousness of the downtrodden proletariat.

    Comment by 'sup — October 24, 2010 @ 1:25 am

  55. What NeilM said (50.)

    Comment by Monkey Boy — October 24, 2010 @ 6:57 am

  56. I suspect the due paying proles would be horrified to see the lifestyles they support. Imagine the CTU having to slum it at Materhorn with the arsey service and reduced drinks range.

    Comment by leon — October 24, 2010 @ 8:32 am

  57. Imagine if PJ had said “Ok lets talk terms and considitions” waaaayyy back when.

    Imagine if a tiny union (not the flippn CTU )hadnt given authority to an Aus Union who pulled a world wide boycott before he’d put the phone down to NZ.

    Also, imagine all the people…

    Comment by k.jones — October 24, 2010 @ 9:16 am

  58. I can’t for next ANZAC day when Kelly will smear shit on the Auckland Cenotaph while Malcom squats and pisses in front of the vets marching.Their looks of hurt and shock at the vilification they recieve will be classic…and somehow Jackson and Warners fault no doubt….

    Comment by James — October 24, 2010 @ 12:17 pm

  59. I’m probably overstating the point but there’s an environment in which this disaster occured and there doesn’t appear to be any recognition on the part of the CTU that they have acted abysmally. They all sound like it was a either great victory for the workers or if it was a defeat it was a glorious defeat, a battle that had to be faught.

    and if the public have a poor impression of them then it’s all the fault of the MSM.

    There’s a major disconnect with reality going on that’s not going to help workers much.

    Comment by NeilM — October 24, 2010 @ 2:33 pm

  60. Come on Irish – who was the sender? Who was the recipient? What was the subject line? What did they actually say?

    I said on Thursday that it may transpire the actors have had a swifty pulled on them by Warners, and I’m now inclined to think that’s the case.

    So when the actors finally caved, perhaps Warners sought to exploit the weakness of their position by leaving them hanging.

    But the decision to talk to Spada was one NZAE could have made on day one. They had an offer on the table. Instead they stonewalled, Whipp went on holiday for two weeks, and only when they realised they’d screwed up did they enter a negotiation on the Pink Pink that they’ve spent the last few years dismissing as irrelevant.

    I can see how Warners might be inclined to put the boot in — if that’s what happened.

    Comment by Russell Brown — October 24, 2010 @ 6:02 pm

  61. Pink Pink

    Arggh. Pink Book.

    Comment by Russell Brown — October 24, 2010 @ 6:05 pm

  62. I can’t see how the studios or Jackson had anything to gain by acting in the way Helen Kelly alleges over the call off of the boycott. If she believes the emails support her position she should make them available for us to see.

    The NZ union people involved have never given a coherent account of what that boycott was, even going as far as claiming it wasn’t a boycott. They did not understand so I’m skeptical of Kelly’s account.

    Comment by NeilM — October 24, 2010 @ 7:33 pm

  63. Briefly looking through how things went this week I’d say the studios were right. It revloves around the protocols of SAG which the CTU and AE do not understand.

    There was an agreement reached last weekend to lift the boycott but that was not actioned until Wednesday when the notification appeared on the SAG website – that is what their members would be able to act on. Until that happened they would all be at risk of discipline if the signed to the, what SAG considers to be, non-union Hobbit.

    In the US system an agreement and notification are quite different.

    Comment by NeilM — October 24, 2010 @ 8:12 pm

  64. The protocols entail a minor understanding of reality unfortunately the CTU fail on that front.

    Comment by leon — October 24, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

  65. sometimes I think I get a bit carried away, but with Clare Curran’s latest surely it’s not just me.

    Not only does she speak nonsense from start to finish she continues to make the same mistake the CTU made right at the start which was to treat this issue as just another labour dispute. It’s all workers vs capitalists whatever.

    That neither the unions nor Labour can grasp the very simple basic issues is all a bit scary.

    It all shows very poor judgement. Seems to play very well with the EPMU people at the Stndard though.

    Comment by NeilM — October 24, 2010 @ 11:33 pm


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