The Dim-Post

November 5, 2010

Is it me?

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 11:21 am

Or is Hilary’s visit way less interesting and significant than the nation’s news editors think it is? Reiteration that we are ‘very good friends’. Zero development on trade or defense issues. I’m not even sure why she’s here.

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  1. I found interesting the contrast between the coverage on nzherald.co.nz and stuff yesterday. While the Granny snootily kept the visit as second item (as it didn’t happen in Auckland and therefore didn’t really happen at all), Stuff’s wankfest included 15-minuute updates.

    Comment by Bearhunter — November 5, 2010 @ 11:39 am

  2. I find it pretty hard to get excited about a Barry Goldwater, Iraq war supporting wal-mart lawyer coming to visit. Funnily enough, from what I’ve seen, the vast majority of those who do find this to be a big deal seem to be nats.

    Comment by Jono — November 5, 2010 @ 11:56 am

  3. She’s here to show the Great Gaia just how big her carbon footprint is after flying her entourage to the ends of the earth.

    And experience first hand the wind chill factor in the world’s coolest capital.

    Comment by pmofnz — November 5, 2010 @ 12:04 pm

  4. I agree that it’s not a HUGE thing, but:

    It marks out a regular timetable for high-level ministerial contact and close co-operation in the Asia-Pacific on issues like disaster response, climate change and energy projects.

    Mrs Clinton said both countries had a procedure for handling military co-operation and indicated there would be more joint training, officer exchanges and joint exercises.

    http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/declaration-can-lead-even-closer-ties-nz-us-council-says/5/70663

    Wahey. I concede that I could be overestimating the importance of timetables.

    Comment by StephenR — November 5, 2010 @ 12:07 pm

  5. A small message to China maybe.

    Comment by Bart — November 5, 2010 @ 12:30 pm

  6. Clinton’s Wellington Declaration is diluting the PublicACTA Wellington Declaration on Google search. Already the first page is half ACTA related, half Clinton related. The MSM is quite willing to help push the anti-copyright treaty story further down the listings.

    Comment by Will de Cleene — November 5, 2010 @ 12:32 pm

  7. And experience first hand the wind chill factor in the world’s coolest capital.

    The photos of her and McCully gritting their teeth as she got off the plane was priceless.

    Comment by StephenR — November 5, 2010 @ 1:10 pm

  8. The US press has been much more interested in her Papua New Guinea visit. And they’re not particularly interested in her PNG visit.

    Comment by bradluen — November 5, 2010 @ 1:54 pm

  9. Her visit here is a bit like visiting your parents, you go because you know you should, not because of any important reason.

    Comment by ieuan — November 5, 2010 @ 1:55 pm

  10. “Her visit here is a bit like visiting your parents, you go because you know you should, not because of any important reason.”

    Yeah, the coverage reminds me of those excruciating visits to distant relatives or in-laws, when you’ve got nothing to talk about, so the most anodyne remarks are seized on gratefully …

    “I see you’ve brought the weather with you!” (cue forced laughter, then quick glance at watch, wondering if it’s too soon to escape)

    Comment by sammy — November 5, 2010 @ 2:02 pm

  11. With the development of Chinese international power, the US suddenly finds that it needs us more than we need them.

    Comment by Vibenna — November 5, 2010 @ 2:21 pm

  12. If we’re lucky it’ll mean we get to boost our economy with one of those spiffy guilty-until-proven-innocent copyright regimes.

    Comment by greg — November 5, 2010 @ 3:30 pm

  13. “It was an honour to meet someone like that”

    These words were said today, about Hillary Clinton, by a Newstalk ZB reporter.

    Do our journalists just not DO journalism any more? When and why did our cringe revert to 1953?

    Comment by sammy — November 5, 2010 @ 4:46 pm

  14. ~2009.
    Johnkey: “So, Afghanistan, eh. What’s in it for us?”
    BW: “Uh, … I could visit, sometime, maybe.”
    Johnkey: “AWESOME! I mean, uh, yeh, no, awesome.”
    BW: ” We’ll need a few things in return. Blank cheque, really.”
    Johnkey: “Awesome.”

    Comment by tussock — November 5, 2010 @ 7:53 pm

  15. It is the China influence.
    The Dompost has been a US sycophant forever (well certainly since WW2).
    The nuclear armed warships is very much a sideshow these days.
    All the warring gangs have much more sophisticated toys to play with.

    Comment by peterlepaysan — November 5, 2010 @ 7:53 pm

  16. The most important thing we learned from this is that Key keeps in his office; an All Blacks jersey and Black Caps bat, some bad art labeled Helensville, newspaper covers of his election victory, and a picture of a panda in a tree.

    Secretary Clinton Speaks With New Zealand Prime Minister Key

    New Zealand Prime Minister Key Displays a Kiwi Chocolava Bar Beside Secretary Clinton

    This is bad for Phil Goff.

    Comment by George D — November 5, 2010 @ 10:24 pm

  17. rampant product placement in those photos

    capitalism gone mad

    Comment by bobby dee — November 6, 2010 @ 7:04 am

  18. Quote “The most important thing we learned from this is that Key keeps in his office; an All Blacks jersey and Black Caps bat, some bad art labeled Helensville, newspaper covers of his election victory, and a picture of a panda in a tree.”

    And the picture of the panda is just sellotaped to the wall! What’s up with that? But to be fair, when Key moved in, that office probably did feel very much like it was still ‘Helen’s-ville’

    Some of those photos are hilarious. In one, it looked like Phil Goff had just skewered Clinton with an NZ flag.

    Other things I learned from looking at those photos; The US State Dept thinks that Wellington Airport is in Thornden, and that Murry McCully is (occacionally) our Prime Minister, and the only people who looked professional in the photo of them walking away from the plane were the Secret Service personnel.

    Comment by Helen (not that one) — November 6, 2010 @ 11:40 am

  19. Frankly I’m nauseated by the gushing sycophancy. It’s like we have royals or Brad n jen in town.
    None of the interviews or even the public quseion time in Chch were anything other than lightweight. Where were the meaty questions like’How does the USA ever hope to be an honest broker of peace between the Palestinians and Israel when they are actively supplying their war machine and finance for the illegal land thefts in the occupied territories?
    Instead it’s signing up to the war machine that’s the big deal…

    Andrew P Nichols
    Chch

    Comment by Andrew Nichols — November 6, 2010 @ 4:20 pm

  20. Yeah, imagine our Govt. and media giving a fuck about the most powerful western powers most powerful statesperson turning up here giving us the thumbs up, what the fuck was everyone thinking? We should just like arrange to meet them in the Koru club to avoid any ‘misunderstandings’.

    Comment by leon — November 6, 2010 @ 7:00 pm


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