The Dim-Post

May 2, 2011

Or is he?????

Filed under: general news — danylmc @ 4:55 pm

Like most Nobel Peace Prize laureates, Barack Obama has teams of assassins scouring the globe and today they killed Osama bin Laden outside a compound in Pakistan. Bin Laden’s value to Al Quaida was as a fund-raiser and recruiter, and he hasn’t done much of any of either in the last ten years so the overall impact in the War On Terror! will be negligible. The impact on Obama’s war against the Republican Party, on the other hand . . .

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  1. They’ve got the body and the DNA is confirmed, so thats that.

    The impact for Obama will be significant but fleeting. George HW Bush won his Persian Gulf war in double quick time, and was turfed out as a one termer shortly thereafter, mainly over tax. Obama is facing bigger problems.

    JC

    Comment by JC — May 2, 2011 @ 5:07 pm

  2. You gotta feel sorry for:

    a) the Republicans
    b) Trump
    c) Fox newz
    d) Tea Party Patriots
    e) George Bush, as on 1 May 2003 he did his ‘Mission Accomplished’ speech on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln (nice timing from the Kenyan).
    F) None of the above.

    Comment by andy (the other one) — May 2, 2011 @ 5:10 pm

  3. This is good for Phil Goff, who announced the news to the world.

    Nice of Obama to wait until he’d finished.

    Comment by sammy — May 2, 2011 @ 5:13 pm

  4. Osama Bin Laden was a thoroughly unpleasant fellow who has richly deserved his demise.

    I bet the special forces guy who fired the killing shots is bursting with pride, and once the party is over and he sobers up he will be festooned with medals and promotions.

    Comment by Sanctuary — May 2, 2011 @ 5:15 pm

  5. Update: I see it was the Navy SEALS got the nod. They’ll have special ops bragging rights forever.

    Comment by Sanctuary — May 2, 2011 @ 5:24 pm

  6. @ Sanctuary

    They will be making about the guy who took the shot, you can bet the farm on it.

    Hollywood A-Listers will all be crossing their fingers and toes that they fit the right age/ethnicity profile to snag the role.

    Comment by Exclamation Mark — May 2, 2011 @ 5:24 pm

  7. How did they confirm the DNA?

    Comment by MikeG — May 2, 2011 @ 5:25 pm

  8. That’s a thought MikeG. They could take a sample, check it against another sample and the second would confirm the first. QED!

    Comment by ianmac — May 2, 2011 @ 5:32 pm

  9. Maybe the saudi royal family provided some samples to check against?

    Comment by greg — May 2, 2011 @ 5:38 pm

  10. How about this for trippy – Bin Laden was killed on the same date as the death of Hitler, April 30th.

    Comment by Sanctuary — May 2, 2011 @ 5:47 pm

  11. Osama has dozens of children at various points on the estrangement spectrum. Sourcing appropriate material for a DNA comparison is not an issue.

    Comment by Rich (the other one) — May 2, 2011 @ 5:47 pm

  12. Guess that should be ‘had’ dozens of children…

    Comment by Rich (the other one) — May 2, 2011 @ 5:48 pm

  13. How long before “OBL deathers” join “truthers”, “birthers” and “warmists” ….

    Comment by Matthew Hooton — May 2, 2011 @ 6:01 pm

  14. Matthew,

    Your fingers slipped … should read “How long before “OBL deathers” join “truthers”, “birthers” and “DENIERS” ….” Hope this helps…

    Comment by Andrew Geddis — May 2, 2011 @ 6:05 pm

  15. In even worse news for the GOP, US Navy sources reveal the soldier who fired the fatal shots was captain Dick Sucker, of Gaytown USA.

    Comment by Sanctuary — May 2, 2011 @ 6:05 pm

  16. In alternative universe news, alternate Osama Bin Laden was today confirmed dead and his body in American hands. His death comes near the tenth anniversary of the September 11 attack in New York. Alternate universe sources said that alternate universe Saudi officials gave intelligence leading to Bin Laden’s death in a deal struck with alternate universe US diplomats in exchange for the United States’ continuing indifference to the alternate Bahrain’s civil bloodshed.

    That good enough, Mr Hooten?

    Comment by Will de Cleene — May 2, 2011 @ 6:07 pm

  17. Hooton, pardonez moi.

    Comment by Will de Cleene — May 2, 2011 @ 6:12 pm

  18. If this is true, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke. Given the conspicuous lack of politicians and figureheads/instigators with blood on their hands in war cemeteries, I sometimes wonder if assassination isn’t a better way of enacting politics by other means than open conflict.

    Comment by samm — May 2, 2011 @ 6:12 pm

  19. “How did they confirm the DNA?”

    DNA taken from his(Osama) sister. Accoding to CNN and Huffington post.

    Comment by K2 — May 2, 2011 @ 6:20 pm

  20. I’m not American so I don’t think I will ever be able to quite comprehend the elation they feel right now.

    However, I’m pretty sure that I speak on behalf of everyone in the world who has had hours and hours of their lives wasted in airport security hold ups, missed flights, confiscated toe nail clippers etc etc etc since 9/11 when I say: [b]“Serves you right, fuckface”.[/b]

    Comment by Exclamation Mark — May 2, 2011 @ 6:23 pm

  21. You’re forgiven Will

    Comment by Matthew Hooton — May 2, 2011 @ 6:27 pm

  22. I’m not going to believe this until I see bin Laden’s long form death certificate!

    More seriously, while I’m not sure of the circumstances of his death, and the US forces may not have known in advance bin Laden was among those they intended to kill, this seems to be a situation where the “kill or capture” policy is not appropriate.

    bin Laden will now be a martyr to the Islamic fundies.

    I think capturing him alive, if at all possible, and having him rot in jail for the rest of his life, would have been the better option.

    Just wait for the next terrorist attack to avenge his death.

    Comment by toad — May 2, 2011 @ 6:29 pm

  23. It would have been better if they could have taken him alive, but he’s sure to have planned it so that they could only take him by killing him, because it (1) makes him a martyr in the eyes of his followers, and (2) means he takes secrets to the grave with him.

    I always thought the ideal way for him to die, symbolically, was if he ran out of recruits and had to carry out a suicide bombing himself.

    Comment by Kahikatea — May 2, 2011 @ 6:31 pm

  24. You know who I really, [i]really[/i] wouldn’t want to be right now?

    Jose Saenz – http://www.amw.com/fugitives/most_wanted_lists.cfm

    Comment by Exclamation Mark — May 2, 2011 @ 6:36 pm

  25. If my memory serves me the US Government, in George W’s term, offered something like $25 million for Bin Laden, dead or alive.
    I wonder if there is somone who will claim the money for telling the US where Bin Laden was?
    If so I bet he’ll be sweating if there is another Wiki-leaks release that names him.
    If it is solely a US forces thing I doubt that anyone qualifies.
    I don’t think the world will miss Bin Laden one little bit though.

    Comment by Alwyn — May 2, 2011 @ 6:57 pm

  26. I wonder why the Pakistani ISI decided OBL was no longer worth protecting. As it’s probably the Pakistanis who will suffer the first backlash is President Zadari strong enough to hold on?

    Comment by TerryB — May 2, 2011 @ 7:14 pm

  27. “Osama bin Laden dead!”. Thats code for “Osama bin Laden seeking leadership role with ACT”, right?

    Comment by Mr February — May 2, 2011 @ 7:35 pm

  28. I should add that it was pretty thoughtful of the US to wait until after Will and Kate’s wedding to go and kill Osama bin Laden.

    Comment by TerryB — May 2, 2011 @ 7:39 pm

  29. Goldstein is dead. Long live Goldstein,
    by which I mean they’ll have to find another one.

    Comment by Roger Parkinson — May 2, 2011 @ 8:00 pm

  30. Deathers would be people like Michael Leeden and Mark Steyn who were saying ‘OBL’s dead’ years ago, surely? In their defence they were only saying it to protect Bush from the claim that he had taken his eye off the ball, which he had, so it’s not much of a defence.

    Comment by Pascal's bookie — May 2, 2011 @ 8:04 pm

  31. I’m very excited by bin Laden’s death, and very much relieved, as David Cameron was truly insightful in second guessing. In the same vein, I very much look forward to the increased security as every radical Islamic group in the world vows revenge for Osama’s death. I especially look forward to the brand new enhanced pat-down technique, where an NTSB employee on minimum wage uses their finger to obtain a DNA sample at the same time so he can check it against the database of travellers Congress are probably sanction before the end of next year when the threat level goes right up.

    This is truly a historic moment, and I’ll always remember where I was when I found out he was dead. I was at work, in case anyone was wondering. Although I’m at work most of the time, so it’s a 50/50 thing that I’ll remember where I was when I found out he was dead.

    Now, I’m off to the internet to read what every half-baked, brain-dead, spongiform fucker thinks about this – largely because if I want to read other news, at some point I won’t be able to avoid having someone smear a cognitive turd across the other side of my screen, desperate to tell me what they think of this pivotal moment in world history, and to do it incredibly badly. Really, I can’t wait to hear what the Iowan congressional delegation has to say about this. That’s the kind of informed opinion that makes me tune the fuck in instantly.

    Comment by Dizzy — May 2, 2011 @ 8:09 pm

  32. Jon Stephenson is reporting that Bin Laden is dead.

    John Key says there is no substance to the claim.

    Comment by sammy — May 2, 2011 @ 8:30 pm

  33. Dizzy

    There’s still plenty of Royal Wedding News for you to sink your teeth into :-)

    Comment by Adze — May 2, 2011 @ 8:43 pm

  34. It’ll turn out it was Jews in the Pakistani administration who dobbed him in.

    JC

    Comment by JC — May 2, 2011 @ 9:15 pm

  35. Cost of US wars since 2001?

    $400,225,824,340,000,000

    Number of Iraq deaths due to the US invasion?

    1,455,590

    Killing one mad Saudi and feeding his body to the sharks?

    PRICELESS!

    For everything else, there’s Mastercard.

    (At least, until it declares bankruptcy…)

    Sorry, someone had to do it.

    Comment by Bill — May 2, 2011 @ 9:43 pm

  36. USA, USA, US fecking A. The truely interesting aspects are that bin Laden had been holed up out in the open in Pakistan presumably with the blessing of local authorities and that the US went in with special forces that deep inside Pakistan. Hush now children, Dizzy has spoken and no further discussion on this topic is allowed.

    Comment by will — May 3, 2011 @ 3:56 am

  37. Morning-after conjectures:

    Afghanistan/Iraq: There’s no reason for the remaining US presence in Iraq to stay there (I mean even less no reason than last week). There’s now a pretty good excuse for getting out of Afghanistan without loss of face if the US thinks Afghanistan is screwed no matter what they do, which is sadly likely the case.

    Pakistan: A lot of people in high places are going to be sheepish if not completely pissed off. Not a good time to be living on either side of the Pakistani border.

    Israel/Palestine: I suspect Obama might now be more likely to support a Palestinian state to keep himself in the good books of the Arab world, but we’ll see.

    Libya: Don’t see how this changes things here.

    All the other Arab democratic movements: Puts them in a better position to pressure the US into putting pressure on their opponents.

    USA: Don’t believe that Obama is anywhere near a lock for a second term. The American public moves in mysterious ways.

    Comment by bradluen — May 3, 2011 @ 6:47 am

  38. (also the Deatherism is starting at places I won’t deign to link to, arguing that if he’s dead they would have shown us the corpse like they did with Uday and Qusay)

    Comment by bradluen — May 3, 2011 @ 8:29 am

  39. Bradluen, I’ve seen it too, and GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, who sits on the Armed Services Committee, is ‘skeptical of the decision’ to dispose of the body. It don’t make no sense to him.

    Questions remain, obvs.

    Comment by Pascal's bookie — May 3, 2011 @ 11:44 am

  40. Et tu, BBC?

    Comment by bradluen — May 3, 2011 @ 1:58 pm

  41. God, is Matthew Hooton a climate change denier?

    What is it about being on the hard right that makes your brain not function properly?

    Comment by ieuan — May 3, 2011 @ 3:27 pm

  42. “What is it about being on the hard right that makes your brain not function properly?”

    teh brains get hollowed out to make room for all that extra moneyz from teh wealth creation…

    Comment by nommopilot — May 3, 2011 @ 4:43 pm

  43. Are there really still people claiming the Earth’s warming? In the age of the net that’s a whole other level of stupid….

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

    Comment by James — May 3, 2011 @ 11:52 pm

  44. ieuan, how do you propose we fix global warming? (Please remember to fix all flaws in your plan before you post it.)

    Comment by Clunking Fist — May 4, 2011 @ 7:53 am

  45. http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-questions/

    “One wonders if there is a special department at the White House that specialises in making decisions that encourage conspiracy theories, because that is what will spawn from this story.”

    Love it.

    Comment by Clunking Fist — May 4, 2011 @ 2:21 pm


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