The Dim-Post

August 14, 2011

Ominous

Filed under: policy — danylmc @ 12:46 pm

The National government is currently considering the Welfare Working Groups proposals, the gist of which is that the entire welfare system should be privatised and run on a corporate ‘for profit’ model. So Key’s insistence that his secret welfare reforms will ‘probably cost more in the short term’ is not awesomely reassuring.

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12 Comments »

  1. Key’s exciting new welfare reform is to stop 16 and 17 year olds buying alcohol.

    Couldn’t they just make that illegal?

    Comment by sammy — August 14, 2011 @ 1:19 pm

  2. I wonder what the success metrics would be…..

    Dishing out money or holding it back (like ACC)?
    Shifting people into pseudo-jobs?
    Turning welfare payments into ‘small business startup grants’?
    Selling ‘under-utilised labour’ contracts efficiently to the market?

    I’m rubbing my Invisible Hands together with glee.

    Comment by Gregor W — August 14, 2011 @ 1:20 pm

  3. This is all so weird. Why don’t those people on benefits just go and get one of the many jobs out there?

    Comment by Dizzy — August 14, 2011 @ 1:31 pm

  4. “Why don’t those people on benefits just go and get one of the many jobs out there?”

    too busy breeding children for DPB payouts

    Comment by nommopilot — August 14, 2011 @ 1:35 pm

  5. It’s only a matter of time before someone complains that crime will increase on the grounds that if all these little pricks are not allowed to buy booze, they’ll steal it.

    The obvious is overlooked. If they do steal it, then they can go onto a full adult benefit. Three square meals and locked accommodation seven days per week with no smokes or booze for a few months at one of the nations many luxury spas for deadheads.

    Comment by Adolf Fiinkensein — August 14, 2011 @ 2:02 pm

  6. Er, Adolf, they aren’t allowed to buy booze now.

    Comment by sammy — August 14, 2011 @ 2:09 pm

  7. “This is all so weird. Why don’t those people on benefits just go and get one of the many jobs out there?”

    Long-term dependency mentality at work.

    Where you and I would just dust ourselves off after losing a factory line job and make a new start as a Senior ASP.NET/SQL/C# Analyst, it suits the beneficiary attitude to pretend it’s all rocket science or something.

    Comment by Sam F — August 14, 2011 @ 2:12 pm

  8. The obvious is overlooked. If they do steal it, then they can go onto a full adult benefit. Three square meals and locked accommodation seven days per week with no smokes or booze for a few months at one of the nations many luxury spas for deadheads.

    Comment by Adolf Fiinkensein

    I trust you’ll be spending next week committing a crime that could get you about a month in jail, just so you can save on your Summer trip to Raro then?

    Otherwise someone might think you’re talking shit when you say prison is cushy.

    Comment by Dizzy — August 14, 2011 @ 3:02 pm

  9. Dizzy: “This is all so weird. Why don’t those people on benefits just go and get one of the many jobs out there?”

    Because it takes a heck of a lot more than a big stick to turn an unskilled beneficiary into a Java developer or a systems admin.

    Comment by DeepRed — August 15, 2011 @ 1:00 am

  10. and a beautiful relationship us born.

    Comment by will — August 15, 2011 @ 7:46 am

  11. Can someone explain to me the substance of how the privatization of welfare is supposed to work, please? I understand that the process involves engaging private businesses to find work for the unemployed, but the rest of the system is a mystery to me. I’m sure there’s some substance to it, I’m just not sure what it is.

    Comment by Robbie — August 16, 2011 @ 10:26 pm


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