My first ever flat warming party was like this. For my second, i simply made it a cocktail party for girls and the all the guys who then tried to wangle invites as well nicely filled out the place. All about artificial scarcity innit.
Comment by Sanctuary — September 15, 2011 @ 12:25 pm
See? As soon as Murray takes over, all runs smoothly. Seriously, though, a more accurate representation would be if you took a pic on Saturday night while the Irish are dealing to the Ockers.
was that the Manu Samoa vs Namibia game where there were lots of empty seats in the stadium, while the Manu Samoa supporters were partying and watching the game on a big screen in Manukau because the Rugby Union had priced the seats at the stadium out of their price range?
Comment by Kahikatea — September 15, 2011 @ 1:02 pm
It would’ve been Scotland vs Georgia. Sounded like an absolutely awful game too – 15-6.
Comment by StephenR — September 15, 2011 @ 1:18 pm
The government will take the glory for the successes of the RWC but blame the failings on Auckland Council and Len Brown. Clearly they see him as their greatest challenger to power on the long term so they’re trying to kneecap him while they can. In the process they run the risk of turning us Jafas further against them.
Comment by Myles thomas — September 15, 2011 @ 2:01 pm
hey… Is that Richard Dreyfuss I see in the distance disappearing into the dazzling light?
Comment by Sanctuary — September 15, 2011 @ 2:11 pm
The comment from Kahikatea above has me curious.
When I was at school the chaps in my class from the islands were Samoans from Samoa. I spend a decade and a bit abroad, come back and the place is now called Manu Samoa. What does this mean? Did the Maori doll from Playschool overthrow Samoa whilst I was away and nobody inform me?
Comment by Michel Djerzinski — September 15, 2011 @ 2:50 pm
I thought “Manu Samoa” was just the name of their rugger team? In the same way New Zealand isn’t called “All Blacks”?
Hugh wrote: “I thought “Manu Samoa” was just the name of their rugger team? In the same way New Zealand isn’t called “All Blacks”?”
now that you mention it, it’s surprising I’ve never heard anyone suggest that we rename the country ‘Allblackland”. Kiwiland has been suggested, but I don’t think it was a Rugby League reference.
Incidentally, there is also a rugby player called Manu Samoa, but he plays for England.
Comment by Kahikatea — September 15, 2011 @ 4:58 pm
hey… Is that Richard Dreyfuss I see in the distance disappearing into the dazzling light?
….and what is he doing next to that large banana on a trailer?
Comment by Gregor W — September 15, 2011 @ 5:37 pm
Wow so there was nobody there to watch Scotland v Georgia. Who would have thought..
‘now that you mention it, it’s surprising I’ve never heard anyone suggest that we rename the country ‘Allblackland”.’
I don’t know about the country, but a lot of the people who support adoption of the Silver Fern Flag do so because it resembles the emblem and colour scheme worn by the All Blacks. Which I think would make NZ the only country in the world with a flag based off a sports uniform, not vice versa.
Now that opening night is over why would anyone want to go there?
See! No crowd problems at all.
Gee Murray is clever.
All those intelligent logical voters in his electorate will have another reason
to vote him back in as they watch the rugby on their plasma screens, at home. Sigh.
Comment by peterlepaysan — September 15, 2011 @ 11:18 pm
“…I don’t know about the country, but a lot of the people who support adoption of the Silver Fern Flag do so because it resembles the emblem and colour scheme worn by the All Blacks…”
Which wouldn’t be true – it was used by the NZ contingent in the Boer War, so it has been our national symbol since well before the 1905 All Blacks who were the break-through team who popularised the game here.
The silver fern flag may be the All Black flag for the great unwashed, but that doesn’t mean us rarified informed types should automatically dismiss it as insufficiently elite – I support it as our flag because it was the first unique symbol of New Zealand.
Comment by Sanctuary — September 15, 2011 @ 11:36 pm
Back on planet Earth, you held outdoor flat-warming parties on a wet, cold Wednesday night? Damn, just be thankful you’re not a frost-bitten virgin.
Sanc, surely the first unique symbol of New Zealand would predate European conquest? I don’t know enough about NZ History to know what it would be, but I’m fairly sure that the Tangata Whenua had multiple symbols to represent Aotearoa long before the Boer War.
Not surprised at the teeming masses on the wharf. Dropped by with some mates on early Tues night, and it was closed. Maybe it was retro 50s Kiwiana night, I dunno….
Giant rugby ball – closed, ANZ dome – closed, DHL container ‘experience’ – closed, McCully slug – closed, Shed 10 – open, and it looked just like my local South Akld league bar. Maybe that was the look the architect wanted. Sigh. Oh, and a very lonely looking waka parked at the end of the wharf.
I was disappointed with their revamp of Shed 10 into a sports bar – almost half the interior was behind the bar space, meaning you would be lucky to squeeze 400-500 people inside. They should have kept both sheds, as it was bluddy cold, so being inside was a major plus!
Not even a goalpost on the wharf. Think of the fun watching half-pissed punters try to kick a rugger ball over the yardarm for a gold coin. Giant net on the other side catching the balls. Hours of fun for kids and adults.
Tackling obstacle course, with tackled folks wearing one of those sumo suits so no-one gets hurt (except Graeme Henry). Get to be hooker or lock in a lineout – pay club rugby players to fill out the rest of the actors, giving the tourists and locals a bit of fun.
Perhaps a test-your-strength scrum machine – pack down with ya mates and see if you can match intl team’s scrum pressure. Of course, everyone would beat Wales, so everyone’s happy
Muzza, I’m available on commission to join your brains trust, so long as I don’t have to sit next to Tim Groser.
“…Sanc, surely the first unique symbol of New Zealand would predate European conquest..?”
Morning Hugh. My understanding is Maori didn’t have a proper word for the whole country in pre-contact times. Wikipedia seems to back me up on this – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aotearoa – for what it is worth. I said “New Zealnd” because that country has only existed since 1840 or so. The history of the use if the Silver Fern as a symbol of New Zealand must pre-date at least 1885, since a dairy company thought it worthwhile trying to trademark it in that year.
So the Silver Fern has been a symbol of the political entity “New Zealand” probably since almost its inception, and certainly well pre-dates the All Blacks.
I am quite fond of vexillogy (you can destroy your productivity with hours of fun at http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ ) and without hijacking the thread (sorry) I am a strong supporter of ditching our current insipid flag and replacing it with the black silver fern flag. The black flag is singular, it is striking, and it is a bold statement of New Zealand identity and patriotism. in short, it is everything a nations flag should be.
Comment by Sanctuary — September 16, 2011 @ 8:19 am
I was about to extend due credit to Ben, but he’s claimed it himself.
Yep, this was Wednesday night, during the fucking awful game of rugby between SCotland and Georgia, so it’s not really representative in any general sense. Just kinda funny.
Aucklanders are cold-blooded and can’t move when the temperature is below 12 degrees. The 6 – 10 day cycle of fine weather that begins today covers some very hot games: ABs V France, England V Scotland, Aus V Eire.
I was about to extend due credit to Ben, but he’s claimed it himself.
Which rather highlights the blogosphere’s pretension to be a form of citizen journalism. When someone actually does something approaching newsgathering, it’s buried under the online equivalent of radio talkback. Without Ben’s picture there wouldn’t have been a thread.
Comment by Joe Wylie — September 16, 2011 @ 2:15 pm
I’m just glad people saw the joke. If you looked inside the bar, there were probably a hundred people there. I didn’t linger – it was noisy, no seats, and they served beer in plastic cups! I went to the Harbourside, right next door, had a nice warm lounge chair, a view, my mate could get his G&T, I got a nice beer served in a glass. It was hard to see anything compelling about Queen’s Wharf, although with live music I might start to get it.
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 3:22 pm
Hmmm. Mozambique has a flag that looks like something my mother would buy at a school fair. Not sure if I see the connection?
Comment by Sanctuary — September 16, 2011 @ 4:54 pm
It’s packed with symbolism. Especially the AK 47 in it.
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 5:34 pm
So does a black flag with a silver fern on it. A pillow made in year 8 Tech which is actually a space scene with a badly cut flaming rocket maybe, or from an angst ridden sixth form art student doing an exercise of light and dark.
I’ll go ahead and agree that the jack & stripes is a shit flag. It says nothing more than “we’re a british colony in the southern hemisphere”. To a casual observer it would be hard to determine which one. The silver fern, OTOH, would quickly become recognizable. My only reservation is that if it was flying from a ship mast, from a distance, from the colors, it could very well look like a Jolly Roger.
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 5:43 pm
Ooops I meant Jack and Stars…
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 5:47 pm
Comment by little_stevie — September 16, 2011 @ 6:09 pm
/snore
Comment by little_stevie — September 16, 2011 @ 6:10 pm
…from a distance, from the colors, it could very well look like a Jolly Roger.
“…32.Aucklanders are cold-blooded and can’t move when the temperature is below 12 degrees. The 6 – 10 day cycle of fine weather that begins today covers some very hot games: ABs V France, England V Scotland, Aus V Eire”
Eire?That would be Ireland, surely, patu, given that the Irish republic (“Eire”) doesn’t actually have a national rugby team.
A National success story! No trouble here, no more overcrowding…
Comment by Ben Clark — September 15, 2011 @ 12:23 pm
My first ever flat warming party was like this. For my second, i simply made it a cocktail party for girls and the all the guys who then tried to wangle invites as well nicely filled out the place. All about artificial scarcity innit.
Comment by Sanctuary — September 15, 2011 @ 12:25 pm
See? As soon as Murray takes over, all runs smoothly. Seriously, though, a more accurate representation would be if you took a pic on Saturday night while the Irish are dealing to the Ockers.
Comment by Don — September 15, 2011 @ 12:39 pm
Perhaps everyone was stuck on a train…?
Comment by Adrian — September 15, 2011 @ 1:00 pm
was that the Manu Samoa vs Namibia game where there were lots of empty seats in the stadium, while the Manu Samoa supporters were partying and watching the game on a big screen in Manukau because the Rugby Union had priced the seats at the stadium out of their price range?
Comment by Kahikatea — September 15, 2011 @ 1:02 pm
It would’ve been Scotland vs Georgia. Sounded like an absolutely awful game too – 15-6.
Comment by StephenR — September 15, 2011 @ 1:18 pm
They didn’t let the dog in for free, did they?
Comment by Jet Simian — September 15, 2011 @ 1:38 pm
Credit:
http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3215/?p=228562#post228562
Comment by Guest — September 15, 2011 @ 1:39 pm
The government will take the glory for the successes of the RWC but blame the failings on Auckland Council and Len Brown. Clearly they see him as their greatest challenger to power on the long term so they’re trying to kneecap him while they can. In the process they run the risk of turning us Jafas further against them.
Comment by Myles thomas — September 15, 2011 @ 2:01 pm
hey… Is that Richard Dreyfuss I see in the distance disappearing into the dazzling light?
Comment by Sanctuary — September 15, 2011 @ 2:11 pm
The comment from Kahikatea above has me curious.
When I was at school the chaps in my class from the islands were Samoans from Samoa. I spend a decade and a bit abroad, come back and the place is now called Manu Samoa. What does this mean? Did the Maori doll from Playschool overthrow Samoa whilst I was away and nobody inform me?
Comment by Michel Djerzinski — September 15, 2011 @ 2:50 pm
I thought “Manu Samoa” was just the name of their rugger team? In the same way New Zealand isn’t called “All Blacks”?
(PS: Michel – any relation?)
Comment by Hugh — September 15, 2011 @ 2:52 pm
That would make sense
Comment by Michel Djerzinski — September 15, 2011 @ 2:57 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoa_national_rugby_union_team – yup
Comment by StephenR — September 15, 2011 @ 3:03 pm
Did the Maori doll from Playschool overthrow Samoa whilst I was away and nobody inform me?
No, Manu now enjoys her retirement years in a palatial waterfront-residence in central Wellington.
I personally think she had a hand in ‘Little’ Ted’s “dissapearance”, but Manu and her former colleague’s ain’t saying nuffing.
Comment by PhilPhil — September 15, 2011 @ 4:07 pm
Hugh wrote: “I thought “Manu Samoa” was just the name of their rugger team? In the same way New Zealand isn’t called “All Blacks”?”
now that you mention it, it’s surprising I’ve never heard anyone suggest that we rename the country ‘Allblackland”. Kiwiland has been suggested, but I don’t think it was a Rugby League reference.
Incidentally, there is also a rugby player called Manu Samoa, but he plays for England.
Comment by Kahikatea — September 15, 2011 @ 4:58 pm
hey… Is that Richard Dreyfuss I see in the distance disappearing into the dazzling light?
….and what is he doing next to that large banana on a trailer?
Comment by Gregor W — September 15, 2011 @ 5:37 pm
Wow so there was nobody there to watch Scotland v Georgia. Who would have thought..
Comment by CB — September 15, 2011 @ 6:05 pm
‘now that you mention it, it’s surprising I’ve never heard anyone suggest that we rename the country ‘Allblackland”.’
I don’t know about the country, but a lot of the people who support adoption of the Silver Fern Flag do so because it resembles the emblem and colour scheme worn by the All Blacks. Which I think would make NZ the only country in the world with a flag based off a sports uniform, not vice versa.
Which sounds about right.
Comment by Hugh — September 15, 2011 @ 6:53 pm
God don’t you just hate sports.
Comment by little_stevie — September 15, 2011 @ 6:55 pm
No, I don’t.
Comment by GOD — September 15, 2011 @ 7:41 pm
Queens Wharf: very popular but a bit vacant
metonym or synechode?
Comment by NeilM — September 15, 2011 @ 8:51 pm
Now that opening night is over why would anyone want to go there?
See! No crowd problems at all.
Gee Murray is clever.
All those intelligent logical voters in his electorate will have another reason
to vote him back in as they watch the rugby on their plasma screens, at home. Sigh.
Comment by peterlepaysan — September 15, 2011 @ 11:18 pm
“…I don’t know about the country, but a lot of the people who support adoption of the Silver Fern Flag do so because it resembles the emblem and colour scheme worn by the All Blacks…”
Which wouldn’t be true – it was used by the NZ contingent in the Boer War, so it has been our national symbol since well before the 1905 All Blacks who were the break-through team who popularised the game here.
The silver fern flag may be the All Black flag for the great unwashed, but that doesn’t mean us rarified informed types should automatically dismiss it as insufficiently elite – I support it as our flag because it was the first unique symbol of New Zealand.
Comment by Sanctuary — September 15, 2011 @ 11:36 pm
Back on planet Earth, you held outdoor flat-warming parties on a wet, cold Wednesday night? Damn, just be thankful you’re not a frost-bitten virgin.
Comment by Craig Ranapia — September 16, 2011 @ 12:00 am
Sanc, surely the first unique symbol of New Zealand would predate European conquest? I don’t know enough about NZ History to know what it would be, but I’m fairly sure that the Tangata Whenua had multiple symbols to represent Aotearoa long before the Boer War.
Comment by Hugh — September 16, 2011 @ 2:25 am
Not surprised at the teeming masses on the wharf. Dropped by with some mates on early Tues night, and it was closed. Maybe it was retro 50s Kiwiana night, I dunno….
Giant rugby ball – closed, ANZ dome – closed, DHL container ‘experience’ – closed, McCully slug – closed, Shed 10 – open, and it looked just like my local South Akld league bar. Maybe that was the look the architect wanted. Sigh. Oh, and a very lonely looking waka parked at the end of the wharf.
I was disappointed with their revamp of Shed 10 into a sports bar – almost half the interior was behind the bar space, meaning you would be lucky to squeeze 400-500 people inside. They should have kept both sheds, as it was bluddy cold, so being inside was a major plus!
Not even a goalpost on the wharf. Think of the fun watching half-pissed punters try to kick a rugger ball over the yardarm for a gold coin. Giant net on the other side catching the balls. Hours of fun for kids and adults.
Tackling obstacle course, with tackled folks wearing one of those sumo suits so no-one gets hurt (except Graeme Henry). Get to be hooker or lock in a lineout – pay club rugby players to fill out the rest of the actors, giving the tourists and locals a bit of fun.
Perhaps a test-your-strength scrum machine – pack down with ya mates and see if you can match intl team’s scrum pressure. Of course, everyone would beat Wales, so everyone’s happy
Muzza, I’m available on commission to join your brains trust, so long as I don’t have to sit next to Tim Groser.
Comment by bob — September 16, 2011 @ 2:45 am
“…Sanc, surely the first unique symbol of New Zealand would predate European conquest..?”
Morning Hugh. My understanding is Maori didn’t have a proper word for the whole country in pre-contact times. Wikipedia seems to back me up on this – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aotearoa – for what it is worth. I said “New Zealnd” because that country has only existed since 1840 or so. The history of the use if the Silver Fern as a symbol of New Zealand must pre-date at least 1885, since a dairy company thought it worthwhile trying to trademark it in that year.
So the Silver Fern has been a symbol of the political entity “New Zealand” probably since almost its inception, and certainly well pre-dates the All Blacks.
I am quite fond of vexillogy (you can destroy your productivity with hours of fun at http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ ) and without hijacking the thread (sorry) I am a strong supporter of ditching our current insipid flag and replacing it with the black silver fern flag. The black flag is singular, it is striking, and it is a bold statement of New Zealand identity and patriotism. in short, it is everything a nations flag should be.
Comment by Sanctuary — September 16, 2011 @ 8:19 am
As the actual photographer, I take a bow.
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 9:12 am
Maybe they all got carted off by the flouro vested goons for not partying in the approved manner.
Comment by millsy — September 16, 2011 @ 11:35 am
I was about to extend due credit to Ben, but he’s claimed it himself.
Yep, this was Wednesday night, during the fucking awful game of rugby between SCotland and Georgia, so it’s not really representative in any general sense. Just kinda funny.
Comment by Russell Brown — September 16, 2011 @ 11:56 am
Aucklanders are cold-blooded and can’t move when the temperature is below 12 degrees. The 6 – 10 day cycle of fine weather that begins today covers some very hot games: ABs V France, England V Scotland, Aus V Eire.
Rugby World Cup.
Comment by Patu — September 16, 2011 @ 12:41 pm
… singular, it is striking, and it is a bold statement of New Zealand identity and patriotism. in short, it is everything a nations flag should be.
Mhmmm… so is Mozambique’s.
Comment by PhilPhil — September 16, 2011 @ 1:26 pm
I was about to extend due credit to Ben, but he’s claimed it himself.
Which rather highlights the blogosphere’s pretension to be a form of citizen journalism. When someone actually does something approaching newsgathering, it’s buried under the online equivalent of radio talkback. Without Ben’s picture there wouldn’t have been a thread.
Comment by Joe Wylie — September 16, 2011 @ 2:15 pm
I’m just glad people saw the joke. If you looked inside the bar, there were probably a hundred people there. I didn’t linger – it was noisy, no seats, and they served beer in plastic cups! I went to the Harbourside, right next door, had a nice warm lounge chair, a view, my mate could get his G&T, I got a nice beer served in a glass. It was hard to see anything compelling about Queen’s Wharf, although with live music I might start to get it.
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 3:22 pm
Hmmm. Mozambique has a flag that looks like something my mother would buy at a school fair. Not sure if I see the connection?
Comment by Sanctuary — September 16, 2011 @ 4:54 pm
It’s packed with symbolism. Especially the AK 47 in it.
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 5:34 pm
So does a black flag with a silver fern on it. A pillow made in year 8 Tech which is actually a space scene with a badly cut flaming rocket maybe, or from an angst ridden sixth form art student doing an exercise of light and dark.
Comment by insider — September 16, 2011 @ 5:39 pm
I’ll go ahead and agree that the jack & stripes is a shit flag. It says nothing more than “we’re a british colony in the southern hemisphere”. To a casual observer it would be hard to determine which one. The silver fern, OTOH, would quickly become recognizable. My only reservation is that if it was flying from a ship mast, from a distance, from the colors, it could very well look like a Jolly Roger.
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 5:43 pm
Ooops I meant Jack and Stars…
Comment by Ben Wilson — September 16, 2011 @ 5:47 pm
Comment by little_stevie — September 16, 2011 @ 6:09 pm
/snore
Comment by little_stevie — September 16, 2011 @ 6:10 pm
…from a distance, from the colors, it could very well look like a Jolly Roger.
You say that like this is a bad thing.
Comment by Flynn the Cat — September 16, 2011 @ 7:15 pm
“…32.Aucklanders are cold-blooded and can’t move when the temperature is below 12 degrees. The 6 – 10 day cycle of fine weather that begins today covers some very hot games: ABs V France, England V Scotland, Aus V Eire”
Eire?That would be Ireland, surely, patu, given that the Irish republic (“Eire”) doesn’t actually have a national rugby team.
Comment by Don — September 16, 2011 @ 7:55 pm