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October 6, 2011

Even Stevens

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 7:03 am

And Labour’s billboard is here.

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  1. Oh dear…. :-)

    Comment by Steve (@nza1) — October 6, 2011 @ 7:08 am

  2. This is very good but yesterday’s on National was better. This Labour one lacks a sense of moral indignation among the people on the raft. And there is no sign of them being surrounded by the vast right-wing, non-Labour-left conspiracy (unless that is the wave about to crash over them).

    Comment by Matthew Hooton — October 6, 2011 @ 7:32 am

  3. That picture’s a fake – they’ve painted out the Pogues’ faces and replaced them with ordinary guys.

    Comment by Psycho Milt — October 6, 2011 @ 7:41 am

  4. So Labour is pro-immigration?

    Comment by Ataahua — October 6, 2011 @ 7:44 am

  5. i think it’s a fake too. those people look too well organised.

    Comment by che tibby — October 6, 2011 @ 7:45 am

  6. BRILLIANT!!

    Comment by David in Chch — October 6, 2011 @ 7:53 am

  7. Why have they all taken off their cardigans?

    Comment by Barnsley Bill — October 6, 2011 @ 8:14 am

  8. Superb.

    If you don’t recognise the painting, the genius isn’t as clear:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raft_of_the_Medusa

    Comment by nic — October 6, 2011 @ 8:36 am

  9. Love it, sums up my feelings about the current Labour caucus very well indeed.

    Are you going to do the little parties as well?

    Perhaps Goya’s “Saturn devouring his Son” for Act?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Devouring_His_Son

    Comment by Conrad — October 6, 2011 @ 9:00 am

  10. Typical of the Tory cultural cringe! Why use a gralic reeking Frenchman who died at 32 when we have C.F. Goldie? Probably because Tories everywhere have a provincialist’s petit-bourgeois love of French Salon art?

    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/ideas-of-maori-origins/4/5

    When the revolution comes, socialist realism will rule in political art!

    Comment by Sanctuary — October 6, 2011 @ 9:03 am

  11. I think it sums up the state of the wider party or its supporters. What would capture the combination of venality, banality and cowardice that really characterises the senior MPs at least?

    Comment by Rhinocrates — October 6, 2011 @ 9:12 am

  12. Goldie is useless. Nothing matches the masterpieces of CM Coolidge.

    Comment by King Kong — October 6, 2011 @ 9:15 am

  13. From the Wikipedia page on the actual raft: “On the eighth day, the fittest began throwing the weak and wounded overboard…”

    Oh, if only…

    Comment by helenalex — October 6, 2011 @ 9:23 am

  14. It can’t be Labour, there are far too many people on the raft.

    Comment by Tinakori — October 6, 2011 @ 9:24 am

  15. Now I want to see ACT’s one…

    Comment by Michael Stevens — October 6, 2011 @ 9:25 am

  16. In such a small version of the real thing it’s very hard to tell that it’s Helen Clark sailng away far in the distance.

    Comment by NeilM — October 6, 2011 @ 9:25 am

  17. Oh – should ahve had the brand new logo, which signals the revitalised Labour party so well captured in this image…

    Comment by Sam — October 6, 2011 @ 9:31 am

  18. And for the don’t bother to vote crowd
    http://www.banksy.co.uk/indoors/questiontime.html

    Comment by King Kong — October 6, 2011 @ 9:34 am

  19. Typical of the Tory cultural cringe! Why use a gralic reeking Frenchman who died at 32 when we have C.F. Goldie? Probably because Tories everywhere have a provincialist’s petit-bourgeois love of French Salon art?

    Goldie, along with Louis Steele, his one-time teacher and co-creator of the Gericault knock-off you’ve linked to, were probably the most reactionary artists of their day. Conservative to the point of rejecting impressionism, their Auckland “French Academy of Art” catered to those dreadful wittering petit-bourgeoisie.

    Comment by Joe W — October 6, 2011 @ 9:37 am

  20. Perhaps Goya’s “Saturn devouring his Son” for Act?

    Won’t be exactly what you were thinking of, but strangely enough
    http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/1003/9d391d8b8640bf6d8f2f.jpeg

    for http://werewolf.co.nz/2010/03/valuing-the-young/

    Comment by lyndon — October 6, 2011 @ 9:39 am

  21. they appear to have run out of chardonnay.

    Comment by amc32 — October 6, 2011 @ 9:41 am

  22. maybe Winston and his chums can frighten gold card holders and RSA members with this one…?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Hokusai-fuji9.png

    Comment by amc32 — October 6, 2011 @ 9:45 am

  23. Either too obvious to be good satire or too high brow to work on the same level as yesterday’s National one.

    Comment by The Fox — October 6, 2011 @ 9:46 am

  24. I think using the “When things look black, we’re at our best” billboard might have been more in keeping with painting’s bleak irony.

    Comment by NeilM — October 6, 2011 @ 9:48 am

  25. I bet they eat Mallard first.

    Comment by bradluen — October 6, 2011 @ 9:49 am

  26. What would capture the combination of venality, banality and cowardice that really characterises the senior MPs at least?

    The Last Supper?

    Comment by Phil — October 6, 2011 @ 9:50 am

  27. The Monty Python one – three Christs and a kangaroo.

    Comment by Rhinocrates — October 6, 2011 @ 9:59 am

  28. #helenalex “On the eighth day, the fittest began throwing the weak and wounded overboard…”

    In this case it will the twenty eighth day of November.

    Comment by Pete George — October 6, 2011 @ 10:04 am

  29. Danyl, one day Trevor is going to come around and introduce you to the Wainui cultural practice known as “the bash”.

    Comment by R Singers — October 6, 2011 @ 10:07 am

  30. And a National Party “Raft of the Medusa”…

    A motor-launch with corporate repair ships at hand; passengers sunbathing and checking investments via laptop and satellite dish; and at the first sight of rough seas, John Key cruising off on a jetski (“See y’all later!”). And a media contingent rowing along behind, trying to keep up with the action.

    Comment by uke — October 6, 2011 @ 10:09 am

  31. Congratulationss, Danyl! This is quite brilliant (as was the “National Weekly”). You’re on a roll – keep ‘em coming!

    Comment by Chris Trotter — October 6, 2011 @ 10:19 am

  32. Nice one Lyndon, maybe I saw it back then and it stuck with me.

    Oh and amc32’s url made me think you were linking to Hokusai’s “The Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife,” which would really scare the oldies…

    Comment by Conrad — October 6, 2011 @ 10:39 am

  33. @ conrad #32

    that’s not how i remember pikachu.

    Comment by amc32 — October 6, 2011 @ 10:46 am

  34. That sort of sums up Labour at the moment. As so the poster you made on National,

    Comment by millsy — October 6, 2011 @ 12:08 pm

  35. I’m looking forward to your Green Party one!

    Comment by Kahikatea — October 6, 2011 @ 12:40 pm

  36. The same image as on the cover of the Pogues’ Rum, Sodomy and the Lash. Somehow that title seems appropriate in this context.

    Comment by Bill Bennett — October 6, 2011 @ 3:19 pm

  37. “I’m looking forward to your Green Party one!”

    Danyl granted the Greens immunity from satire a while ago.

    Comment by Hugh — October 6, 2011 @ 3:29 pm

  38. Hugh, I thought he gave up competing with them? Or was that ACT, it’s so hard to remember.

    Comment by moz — October 6, 2011 @ 3:52 pm

  39. One of the weaknesses of MMP is that the local seats are still elected by FPP. This means that one of the two major parties, down on its luck in an election, is typically reduced to a hard core of party hacks least able to revive it. If anyone wants to list all the “party hacks” MMP is supposed to encourage…..you’ll find they are in the FPP-elected local seats and many of them pre-date MMP even now.

    Comment by Steve (@nza1) — October 6, 2011 @ 10:47 pm

  40. It’s not really NZ First’s aesthetic, but I can’t think of a better metaphor for Winston Peters than a tiger shark trapped in a tub of formaldehyde.

    And just look at the title…

    Comment by Rory MacKinnon — October 7, 2011 @ 3:22 am

  41. AKA the Rainbow Worrier.

    Comment by Pete George — October 7, 2011 @ 9:04 am

  42. @ # 39 You make no sense! They are eleceted because they are popular with their electorate. Look at the Labour Party List, all the worthless Hacks on there that will be returned while some useful MP’s such as Nash will miss out

    Comment by Jeff — October 7, 2011 @ 10:07 am

  43. Jeff, in safe seats, the MP is there because they got nominated by their party for a seat where the majority always vote for that party’s candidate.

    It is true that in some marginal electorates, you can win despite not being from the most popular party, but the statistics show that being nominated for a seat where your party has a large majority is guaranteed access to parliament just as much as getting a high list place is.

    The only exception to this I’m aware of is Epsom, where people have voted for an ACT candidate despite National having a clear majority of the party vote, but this is clearly an attempt to manipulate the system, rather than a reaction to National’s choice of candidate.

    Comment by Kahikatea — October 7, 2011 @ 10:43 am

  44. With any luck the raft will break up and sink.

    Comment by Thawed out — October 7, 2011 @ 1:06 pm

  45. Looks more like the National government ,after their week from hell.
    Chaos as their leader lays prone and naked,while behind them a sleek green sloop with a red sail
    slips quietly past.

    Comment by Scotty — October 7, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

  46. Kahikatea, you make no sense in terms of rebutting Jeffs argument that all the worthless Hacks on the Labour list will be returned while some useful MP’s such as Nash will miss out

    Comment by little_stevie — October 7, 2011 @ 7:52 pm

  47. “With any luck the raft will break up and sink.”

    That’s comic genius right there that is. No wonder it took you two days to write.

    Comment by Guy Smiley — October 7, 2011 @ 9:02 pm

  48. Kahikatea brings home the point that Epsom voters, not content with electing their choice for party vote, manage to get a whole party of other MPs with their electorate vote. They choose 3 or 4 MPs while the rest of us get 1. Greedy selfish rich and powerful.

    Comment by Myles thomas — October 7, 2011 @ 9:20 pm

  49. Good point Myles. Epsom voters should be stripped of their party vote, rich cheating c*nts. I mean what do they think they are doing exercising their democratic rights, fuckers.

    Comment by little_stevie — October 8, 2011 @ 6:09 am

  50. I’d like to see more electorates get “greedy selfish and powerful” like Epsom – AKA using MMP smarter for local advantage.

    How many other electorates does anyone know much about?

    Comment by Pete George — October 8, 2011 @ 7:40 am

  51. “I’d like to see more electorates get “greedy selfish and powerful” like Epsom”

    I’d like to see MMP changed so that it can’t be abused in that way. It’s Epsom which is abusing it at the moment, but it’s also been true of Tauranga in the past, and to a lesser extent Ohariu, Wigram and the Maori electorates (and almost in Coromandel).

    Comment by Kahikatea — October 8, 2011 @ 9:44 am

  52. frankly, I’d rather go back to the days when Epsom was just a misspelled printer brand name.

    Comment by Kahikatea — October 8, 2011 @ 9:45 am

  53. Pete is right. Other electorates could do the same- Te tai tokerau is likely to usher in Mana, only difference is Maori aren’t colluding and ARE asking for electorate vote.

    United Future doesn’t have big enough party vote to get any extra list MPs, sorry Pete.

    Greens don’t need electorates any more. NZ First?

    Comment by Myles thomas — October 8, 2011 @ 10:43 am

  54. sure, there’s POTENTIAL to use it. But I don’t think we should have a system that privileges parties that are in a position to do that over other parties with similar levels of support which don’t.

    Comment by Kahikatea — October 8, 2011 @ 11:36 am

  55. sorry, that should be “…parties with similar levels of support which aren’t”

    Comment by Kahikatea — October 8, 2011 @ 11:37 am

  56. Fair call. So in Epson, if the Nats say “vote ACT” what are Labour and Greens saying? I have a hard core lefty friend there considering National for the first time in her life.

    Comment by Myles thomas — October 8, 2011 @ 11:29 pm

  57. “But I don’t think we should have a system that privileges parties that are in a position to do that over other parties with similar levels of support which don’t.”

    It’s not a special privilege. Any electorate can choose to play smart with MMP. The Maori electorates do it. Ohariu does it.

    Don’t blame it on parties, voters allow them to do it. All it takes is a will by voters in an electorate to take control and dictate to parties. Voters can be the manipulators if they choose.

    Comment by Pete George — October 9, 2011 @ 8:46 am

  58. It’s a minor problem with the system. Get rid of the silly provision that allows parties proportionality without hitting the threshold if they win an electorate seat and you mostly get rid of the frightful opportunists like Dunne and the tawdry deals.

    Comment by Guy Smiley — October 9, 2011 @ 1:08 pm

  59. L.O.L, tawdry antics and punters … Just like the whole Labour machine eh Guy!

    Comment by little_stevie — October 9, 2011 @ 10:32 pm

  60. Danyl’s quiet. Do you think he’s been busy watching the rugby all weekend?

    Comment by insider — October 10, 2011 @ 9:39 am

  61. I suspect he’s busy having a baby.

    Comment by Gregor W — October 10, 2011 @ 9:47 am

  62. Yikes. That will be painful for him

    Comment by Myles thomas — October 10, 2011 @ 11:04 am

  63. Nah – my wife says it’s as easy as passing a rugby ball.

    Comment by insider — October 10, 2011 @ 12:13 pm

  64. If thats true, congratulations nad best wishes to Mr and Mrs D

    Comment by Leopold — October 10, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

  65. Daughter Sadie (not sure of spelling) on Sunday night, and if I had listened to my sister more carefully I could tell you the weight (3.? kg)

    Comment by Uncle Leo — October 11, 2011 @ 5:52 pm

  66. Danyl: Congrats on the arrival! Get some sleep if you can – it’ll be few and far between for a while.

    Comment by Simon Poole — October 11, 2011 @ 8:22 pm

  67. Given children these days take around 30 yrs to grow up and leave home Danyl might be away for some time.

    Comment by NeilM — October 12, 2011 @ 9:45 pm

  68. I hope they grow up and p*ss off more quickly the the young Labour & Green activists who are attempting to astroturf RNZ and TV7 political news coverage at the moment.

    Comment by little_stevie — October 12, 2011 @ 10:40 pm

  69. l_s managed to turn even the (putative) birth of danyl’s child into an attack on the Labour and Green Parties. Stay classy, guy!

    Comment by Grassed Up — October 13, 2011 @ 7:27 am

  70. The thread is about Labour billboards so try to stay on topic yar guy.

    Comment by little_stevie — October 13, 2011 @ 7:35 am

  71. Sure, l_s … THAT’S what we’re still talking about … you dick.

    Comment by Grassed Up — October 13, 2011 @ 7:46 am

  72. as with Pike River there’s a lot of instant experts with perfect hindsight. Russell Norman’s attacks on Maritime NZ are pretty bizarre. My guess is that Norman isn’t really an expert on this sort of situation.

    Comment by NeilM — October 13, 2011 @ 8:06 am

  73. Daughter Sadie (not sure of spelling) on Sunday night

    Man, I put all my iPredict money on Helen.

    Also congratulations.

    Comment by bradluen — October 13, 2011 @ 8:59 am

  74. Cngratulations to the family!

    Comment by Sanctuary — October 13, 2011 @ 10:49 am

  75. Nice one, congratulations Danyl and family. I will now barely tolerate this interruption to my satirical political feed…

    Comment by garethw — October 13, 2011 @ 4:47 pm


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