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		<title>By: Steve (@nza1)</title>
		<link>http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/set-the-controls-for-the-heart-of-the-sun-2/#comment-77551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve (@nza1)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Translation: &quot;insulted&quot; should be &quot;insulated&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Translation: &#8220;insulted&#8221; should be &#8220;insulated&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (@nza1)</title>
		<link>http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/set-the-controls-for-the-heart-of-the-sun-2/#comment-77550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve (@nza1)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 05:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no interest in lower NZ$. It would just mean that everyone gets a big pay cut....but that those earning the inflated dollars derived from foreign currency conversion would be somewhat insulted. That translates to me as sacrificing the living standards of the 90% of Kiwis so a a few thousand farmers and other exporters can tread water on import costs while we all pay more and more. Maybe I&#039;m missing something.....but that just seems dumb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no interest in lower NZ$. It would just mean that everyone gets a big pay cut&#8230;.but that those earning the inflated dollars derived from foreign currency conversion would be somewhat insulted. That translates to me as sacrificing the living standards of the 90% of Kiwis so a a few thousand farmers and other exporters can tread water on import costs while we all pay more and more. Maybe I&#8217;m missing something&#8230;..but that just seems dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: swan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Also, subdividers are competing with one another to make their subdivisions the ‘higher-class’ ones, by setting minimum floor areas for houses to be built on them (meaning that if you lost a small house, and had an insurance payout to build a new small house, you struggle to get a site where they will let you build as house of a size you can afford), and they also generally banned people from shifting existing houses from red-zoned land to the new subdivisions.&quot;

The reason for this?  There is fundamentally tight supply thanks to regulation.  If there was no such thing as a council banning subdivision, there would be enough supply to cater for all sectors of the market - like in the rest of the economy.

Bob - the banks are falling over themselves to lend against housing.  There is no shortage of access to capital.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also, subdividers are competing with one another to make their subdivisions the ‘higher-class’ ones, by setting minimum floor areas for houses to be built on them (meaning that if you lost a small house, and had an insurance payout to build a new small house, you struggle to get a site where they will let you build as house of a size you can afford), and they also generally banned people from shifting existing houses from red-zoned land to the new subdivisions.&#8221;</p>
<p>The reason for this?  There is fundamentally tight supply thanks to regulation.  If there was no such thing as a council banning subdivision, there would be enough supply to cater for all sectors of the market &#8211; like in the rest of the economy.</p>
<p>Bob &#8211; the banks are falling over themselves to lend against housing.  There is no shortage of access to capital.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! I was thinking mostly of Auckland when I commented on building kahikatea, but what you say is scandalous - the National government seems hellbent on destroying Christchurch people&#039;s lives. What possible reason could they give for not letting people shift an undamaged (or lightly damaged) house from a red zone to safe land? Other than their desire to create a speculative property crisis, and hence, extra profits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I was thinking mostly of Auckland when I commented on building kahikatea, but what you say is scandalous &#8211; the National government seems hellbent on destroying Christchurch people&#8217;s lives. What possible reason could they give for not letting people shift an undamaged (or lightly damaged) house from a red zone to safe land? Other than their desire to create a speculative property crisis, and hence, extra profits.</p>
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		<title>By: kahikatea</title>
		<link>http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/set-the-controls-for-the-heart-of-the-sun-2/#comment-77536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kahikatea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not the public sector that&#039;s holding up rebuilding in Christchurch - it&#039;s the private sector.

Banks won&#039;t lend and builders won&#039;t build without insurance, and the insurance companies have been very wary about lending because of the earthquake risk. Also, subdividers are competing with one another to make their subdivisions the &#039;higher-class&#039; ones, by setting minimum floor areas for houses to be built on them (meaning that if you lost a small house, and had an insurance payout to build a new small house, you struggle to get a site where they will let you build as house of a size you can afford), and they also generally banned people from shifting existing houses from red-zoned land to the new subdivisions. This means there has been an exodus of houses from Christchurch being shifted to other parts of the country, even while Chrtistchurch was the place where the demand for houses was highest, because people couldn&#039;t get land in Christchurch to put them on.

People who worship the wisdom of the market should be happy about how slowly the Christchurch rebuild has been going, because it is the market in its infinite wisdom that has decided to keep Christchurch people homeless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the public sector that&#8217;s holding up rebuilding in Christchurch &#8211; it&#8217;s the private sector.</p>
<p>Banks won&#8217;t lend and builders won&#8217;t build without insurance, and the insurance companies have been very wary about lending because of the earthquake risk. Also, subdividers are competing with one another to make their subdivisions the &#8216;higher-class&#8217; ones, by setting minimum floor areas for houses to be built on them (meaning that if you lost a small house, and had an insurance payout to build a new small house, you struggle to get a site where they will let you build as house of a size you can afford), and they also generally banned people from shifting existing houses from red-zoned land to the new subdivisions. This means there has been an exodus of houses from Christchurch being shifted to other parts of the country, even while Chrtistchurch was the place where the demand for houses was highest, because people couldn&#8217;t get land in Christchurch to put them on.</p>
<p>People who worship the wisdom of the market should be happy about how slowly the Christchurch rebuild has been going, because it is the market in its infinite wisdom that has decided to keep Christchurch people homeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Clunking Fist</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Housing NZ are a big cashed up investor*? Jees, don&#039;t tell Treasury.

* Unless you mean they have access to govt funding? From a govt that is having to borrow money to pay public service salaries...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Housing NZ are a big cashed up investor*? Jees, don&#8217;t tell Treasury.</p>
<p>* Unless you mean they have access to govt funding? From a govt that is having to borrow money to pay public service salaries&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;If nothing else, this will be an interesting field trial for central bank independence. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Remind me why we have Reserve Bank independence again? Oh, that&#039;s right, because we don&#039;t want to follow nutty, ideological, hare-brained theories.... like leaving everything to an RBNZ obsessed with one economic factor only.

To be fair, swan makes a good point - RBNZ is supposed to be independent to ensure govt doesn&#039;t evaporate monetary value by tinkering for short-term election cycle benefits. However, that does seem to ignore the evidence that the RBNZ are as blinkered as a clydesdale on the downsides to preserving monetary value we are currently experiencing.

My vote? Nationalise the RBNZ (without compensation) and tell Key to show us how wonderful he is at setting monetary policy to achieve his economic goals. Then we can at least have a good laugh when the next jump in unemployment comes out.

@ swan - lack of building in Auckland and Chch has nothing to do with council control freakery; everything to do with a failed free market approach to building. Our system is based on owner-operator builders, with similar contractors and subbies, and sub-sub-sub-subbies.... none of whom have the capital to order a Chinese takeaway on Friday night (the more successful builders have their capital tied up in trucks, diggers, etc). So the actual builders don&#039;t have the coin or equity to buy the land and develop it. Which leaves property development to the wealthy investors, who are happy to sit on their landbanks and watch values rise as the housing shortage grows. Sure, they&#039;ll trickle out a small supply of homes, but not enough to slow their speculative capital value growth (unlike the builders, who would keep building, as they need the regular income).

Basically, we are short of a big cashed up investor who is willing to get builders in regular work creating enough houses for everyone to live in without big house price rises. I wonder where we could find such an investor? Perhaps we should ask our good mate Housing NZ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If nothing else, this will be an interesting field trial for central bank independence. &#8220;</i><br />
Remind me why we have Reserve Bank independence again? Oh, that&#8217;s right, because we don&#8217;t want to follow nutty, ideological, hare-brained theories&#8230;. like leaving everything to an RBNZ obsessed with one economic factor only.</p>
<p>To be fair, swan makes a good point &#8211; RBNZ is supposed to be independent to ensure govt doesn&#8217;t evaporate monetary value by tinkering for short-term election cycle benefits. However, that does seem to ignore the evidence that the RBNZ are as blinkered as a clydesdale on the downsides to preserving monetary value we are currently experiencing.</p>
<p>My vote? Nationalise the RBNZ (without compensation) and tell Key to show us how wonderful he is at setting monetary policy to achieve his economic goals. Then we can at least have a good laugh when the next jump in unemployment comes out.</p>
<p>@ swan &#8211; lack of building in Auckland and Chch has nothing to do with council control freakery; everything to do with a failed free market approach to building. Our system is based on owner-operator builders, with similar contractors and subbies, and sub-sub-sub-subbies&#8230;. none of whom have the capital to order a Chinese takeaway on Friday night (the more successful builders have their capital tied up in trucks, diggers, etc). So the actual builders don&#8217;t have the coin or equity to buy the land and develop it. Which leaves property development to the wealthy investors, who are happy to sit on their landbanks and watch values rise as the housing shortage grows. Sure, they&#8217;ll trickle out a small supply of homes, but not enough to slow their speculative capital value growth (unlike the builders, who would keep building, as they need the regular income).</p>
<p>Basically, we are short of a big cashed up investor who is willing to get builders in regular work creating enough houses for everyone to live in without big house price rises. I wonder where we could find such an investor? Perhaps we should ask our good mate Housing NZ?</p>
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		<title>By: swan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reserve bank is trying to keep inflation low and stable.  Thats it.  Its tasked with making sure the value of my dollars do not evaporate.  Its a moral obligation.  Thankfully we have reserve bank independence.  

Meanwhile, with a mini-boom in the housing market, we still have very low levels of building in Auckland and Christchurch.  Perhaps someone needs to start pointing the finger at the council (and government) control freaks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reserve bank is trying to keep inflation low and stable.  Thats it.  Its tasked with making sure the value of my dollars do not evaporate.  Its a moral obligation.  Thankfully we have reserve bank independence.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, with a mini-boom in the housing market, we still have very low levels of building in Auckland and Christchurch.  Perhaps someone needs to start pointing the finger at the council (and government) control freaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 23:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;Treasury predict growth, low unemployment and high inflation because there’s a right-wing government in power

No - Treasury predict these things because that is how their model is constructed. Look at all of their forecasts - in the long run they always predict something like 3% growth regardless of the short-run. It doesn&#039;t matter who is in power, it&#039;s their understanding of the economy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Treasury predict growth, low unemployment and high inflation because there’s a right-wing government in power</p>
<p>No &#8211; Treasury predict these things because that is how their model is constructed. Look at all of their forecasts &#8211; in the long run they always predict something like 3% growth regardless of the short-run. It doesn&#8217;t matter who is in power, it&#8217;s their understanding of the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 23:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[English&#039;s blurb is jibberish,Key&#039;s response is that his plans are working and it will be ok,even if the ship is sinking and hits the bottom.
If his desire is to have a destitute nz population and the country bailed out by the imf,he is on the right path.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>English&#8217;s blurb is jibberish,Key&#8217;s response is that his plans are working and it will be ok,even if the ship is sinking and hits the bottom.<br />
If his desire is to have a destitute nz population and the country bailed out by the imf,he is on the right path.</p>
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