Comments on: The Novopay BIM http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/ It is difficult not to write satire - Juvenal Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:21:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: titsonabull http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84368 Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:11:30 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84368 Meetoo recreates some warped mccarthism….

]]> By: MeToo http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84358 Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:31:53 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84358 i fear xianmac is onto something… it actually makes sense as a solution and would suit the govt to a tee.

]]> By: NeilM http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84335 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:48:38 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84335 I just checked to see who the education minister when Talen2 were signed up. It was Chris Carter.

]]> By: insider http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84227 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:36:27 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84227 @lucy

About 20% of teachers employed by schools are part time. That excludes relief teachers. Numbers are a easily found http://www.educationcounts.govt.nz/statistics/schooling/teaching_staff. Not sure why this was a surprise.

Novapay may heave been pushed too early because datacom had been pushing to shut down their old system for some time. They were finding it harder and harder to staff the school support

]]> By: xianmac http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84216 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:37:42 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84216 The NOVA Pay shambles is a deliberate plot. Mr Joyce will look very serious as he examines cause and effect then he will announce a fresh glorious solution.
A lump of money will be given to each school and they will manage all the payments in-house. Bulk Funding you say? No. A solution to a problem that bothers schools and Mr Joyce will be celebrated as a Hero.

]]> By: Gregor W http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84214 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:03:12 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84214 A system like this needs a business analysis process that accurately translates current practice / obligations into a requirements document that can be used to – reliably – develop a functional specification.

Shut up, Steve – your just talking sense here.

Any half decent inhouse UML modelling – expensive up front but worth it – should have given MoE enough understanding to go to market to get a COTS payroll solution.
Payroll is not rocket surgery and they are not a unique business.
Instead, I suspect this process was short-circuited to become a sales beauty contest where the unofficial outcome – “Get rid of Datacom” – was predetermined.

]]> By: Steve (@nza1) http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84212 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:11:22 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84212 A system like this needs a business analysis process that accurately translates current practice / obligations into a requirements document that can be used to – reliably – develop a functional specification. From the functional specification will from development specs…..and out of that comes software which is then tested against the functional spec, the requirements and – finally – in test runs on live data. For a huge system, you’d run it in parallel as much as possible to see what works and what doesn’t. This is absolutely the very last chance to pick up flaws that may reach right back into the business analysis process (which should have been picked up a competent group of test analysts verifying the assumptions and details of the original requirements documents and certainly the functional spec). That this system went live broken as badly as it clearly is says that at every stage the “rigour” just wasn’t there. “She’ll be right” software development….probably unintentionally….but the details don’t get out of hand unless you allowed them to.

]]> By: TransportationDevice A7-98.1 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84209 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:52:50 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84209 “Are we getting a refund from PWC?” Yes it’s right next to the refund from Lehmans, NZ First and the 4th Labour Govt.

]]> By: Owen http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84188 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:16:55 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84188 Are we getting a refund from PWC?

]]> By: Conrad http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/the-novopay-bim/#comment-84186 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:01:25 +0000 http://dimpost.wordpress.com/?p=14111#comment-84186 So it’s another example of the ‘arcane and complicated software package that purportedly does everything and locks you in forevermore’ business model?

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