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August 20, 2009

The gelatinous cube party

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 6:50 am

There’s been a bit of commentary about Labour’s poor relationship with the Maori Party and the need for them to develop theyselves one of those mana enhancing relationships we keep hearing about. But when I read stories like this I find it hard to imagine that there’s going to be a Maori Party after the next election:

The email said Mr Hide had threatened to end Act’s relationship with National if Maori seats were allowed.

Maori Party co-leader Tariana Turia said last night that she was disappointed at Mr Hide’s position but her party’s support for the Government would not change . . .

“But we have no intentions of withdrawing support for the Government and we have no intention of withdrawing our ministerial roles. That’s not what we went into the relationship for.”

I have trouble figuring out if Sharples and Turia are simple-minded fools or political grandmasters playing the long game, thousands of moves ahead of anybody else, but surely the right of Maori to be represented under the Treaty is part of any ‘long game’ and a hell of a lot more important than ‘the relationship’; and in terms of party politics the Maori Party is WAY more important to National than ACT, a party that would disappear overnight if Key decided to take Epsom back or if councils put anti-psychotic drugs in the tap water.


  1. I thought Turia came across very well on Morning Report, often she’s just grumpy. It’s the most significant issue regarding the reforms and her criticism of Hide was forceful but measured.

    Significantly Labour are nowhere to be seen on this.

    It’s an interesting corner Hide is painitng himself into.

    Comment by Neil — August 20, 2009 @ 7:50 am

  2. “Significantly Labour are nowhere to be seen on this.”

    Except in the House and on TV last night. But in any case, Danyl has a Napoleon quote for what Labour should (not) be doing at the moment.

    Far more significantly, Pita Sharples is keeping quiet. Turia is retiring at the end of this term, and won’t have to face the voters again; her colleagues will.

    Hone’s mum will not speak to him again if he lets Hide win.

    Comment by sammy — August 20, 2009 @ 8:09 am

  3. The “politics of the possible” suggest that it might be left up to Aucklanders to decide.

    The sort of stories leaked to the media to suggest that, would be that its “racist” and special case pleading to insist on Maori seats, and its “big government bullying” to take the choice away from Aucklanders.

    It’ll be interesting.


    Comment by JC — August 20, 2009 @ 8:42 am

  4. What’s the deal with Rodney’s top lip? He appeared on ‘Breakfast’ this morning and he’s either recovering for a trip to the dentist or had some back yard botex.

    Comment by ieuan — August 20, 2009 @ 8:48 am

  5. Update from Radio NZ:

    “Mr Hide’s office says he would retain his other two portfolios – minister of regulatory reform and associate minister of commerce. He is a minister outside Cabinet.”

    Who needs a Prime Minister? Rodney’s got it all worked out.

    Next: Hide announces his own replacement as Local Government Minister, to Governor-General John Key.

    Comment by sammy — August 20, 2009 @ 9:23 am

  6. Hmmm, different slant in this article

    Comment by Captain Crab — August 20, 2009 @ 9:58 am

  7. Let’s give the Maori Party a chance at working within a National Government, shall we? Logic (well, my logic) indicates that you’re more likely to generate notable change working within the power system that outside it – but if it turns out further down the track that remaining within Government isn’t making a blind bit of difference then the Maori Party can return to storming the barricades from without. But they should have a decent shot at being in Government without being thought of as weak.

    Comment by Ataahua — August 20, 2009 @ 10:19 am

  8. Would key let Hide go & continue governing with the Maori party (my heart swells at the thought), would they have the numbers?

    Comment by llew — August 20, 2009 @ 10:49 am

  9. llew, yeah, they would – this is why Hide has no power. But Hide says he won’t withdraw confidence & supply whatever happens, so the issue is probably moot.


    Comment by Lew — August 20, 2009 @ 12:26 pm

  10. And of course if Key gets really peed of at Hide, he can always throw in a strong Nat candidate for Epsom, wiping out both Hide and ACT – Hide dosent dare withdraw confidence and supply

    Comment by Leopold — August 20, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

  11. It all works for Key, Hide plays his hand and maybe Act Party purists get some jollies but that’s about it.

    I’m still inclined to think there will be Maori seats. It makes good poltics for Key as far as I can see.

    Comment by Neil — August 20, 2009 @ 1:39 pm

  12. “It all works for Key, Hide plays his hand and maybe Act Party purists get some jollies but that’s about it.”

    Hah. Probly. Wonder what they’re saying over at kiwiblog…

    Comment by llew — August 20, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

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