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March 29, 2011

Quotes of the day, not mutually exclusive edition

Filed under: psuedopolitics — danylmc @ 3:14 pm

Labour leader Phil Goff says the Darren Hughes affair is bound to be bad for the party.

Goff speaking to TVNZ yesterday.

Labour leader Phil Goff has said the Darren Hughes affair has “strengthened” his leadership.

Goff at his post-caucus press conference today.


  1. Ooh, you bitch.

    Comment by SHG — March 29, 2011 @ 3:18 pm

  2. Labour have complained about the media but wouldn’t be nice if Mr Goff could sing the same tune each day

    Comment by Raymond A Francis — March 29, 2011 @ 3:26 pm

  3. They’re certainly not mutually exclusive. It may have been in the best interests of the Party for Darren Hughes to become leader. Maybe he was about to challenge Goff. He can’t now, which means Goff is stronger 🙂

    Comment by Graeme Edgeler — March 29, 2011 @ 3:30 pm

  4. If it doesnt kill you it will only make you stronger right???

    Comment by max — March 29, 2011 @ 3:37 pm

  5. Goff’s leadership over a weakened party has been strengthened.

    Comment by simon — March 29, 2011 @ 4:23 pm

  6. Graham may have just stumbled onto something.

    Hughes fucks up, the police are investigating him. He goes to his Leader, who says “don’t worry about it, I can make this go away. Just remember, that one day I will come to you asking for a favour…”

    Two weeks later, Hughes launches his tilt at the leadership. Goff calls him into the office to remind him of the damaging info he holds. An impasse, so Phil “reveals” the information to the media to sink any leadership aspirations Hughes might have.

    Maybe Goff is far more Machiavellian than we gave him credit for, and Hughes has an issue with his short-term memory…

    Comment by Paul — March 29, 2011 @ 4:37 pm

  7. That is roughly the quality of conspiracy Labour is capable of right now.

    Comment by helenalex — March 29, 2011 @ 5:19 pm

  8. “Asked if his leadership had been damaged, he said: “No, I think it’s strengthened it.

    “We’ve had a chance to work through these issues. People have seen what my response has been and why that response has been as it is. Not everybody will agree with my response but I think everybody will respect the reasons why I responded the way I did.”
    What would Mr Key have said if he would even front up for an interview?

    Comment by ianmac — March 29, 2011 @ 5:28 pm

  9. Therefore: what strenghens Goff’s leadership is bad for the party.

    I can imagine a senario in which Goff’s leadership is strengthened by kneecapping the party so badly no-one else wants it until after the election. Perhaps imagination is no longer required.

    Comment by Anita — March 29, 2011 @ 5:32 pm

  10. So you’re all suggesting this is a cunning plan by Goff to ensure he’s leader till the election…

    What do you think his plan is for holding onto that position post-election?

    Comment by TBWood — March 29, 2011 @ 6:03 pm

  11. Yes, yes, it all makes sense now: what is bad for the Party is good for Goff… it’s all part of ACT’s plan to reattach to the Labour Party and Complete the Circle… Wait, that doesn’t make any sense…

    Comment by Philoff — March 29, 2011 @ 6:04 pm

  12. I’m not suggesting it is either cunning or a plan, just pointing out that the statements are not actually inconsistent.

    Comment by Anita — March 29, 2011 @ 6:55 pm

  13. “So you’re all suggesting this is a cunning plan by Goff to ensure he’s leader till the election…”

    What’s it worth to Goff (salary-wise) to remain leader until the election?

    Comment by Repton — March 29, 2011 @ 7:33 pm

  14. MPs’ Pay

    Comment by Anita — March 29, 2011 @ 7:41 pm

  15. Phil believes the Labour party is existing in a quantum state. The same thing can be both good and bad as long as you don’t look at it too closely.

    Comment by nadis — March 29, 2011 @ 8:52 pm

  16. “What do you think his plan is for holding onto that position post-election?’

    Well given the safeness of his seat, I presume he’s been planning to be the only electorate MP returned in 2011. It’s the only reason I can think of for the way he’s led the party so far…

    Comment by bearhunter — March 29, 2011 @ 8:57 pm

  17. Yes, Goff’s leadership is strengthened as a result of the Darren Hughes affair, as the desire to be leader is lessened. Consequently, that’s bound to be bad for the party.

    Comment by dave — March 29, 2011 @ 9:23 pm

  18. @nadis, re “quantum state”

    Alternatively: the more accurately you measure their competency, the less certain you become about their election prospects (and vice versa)

    (ok, a bit of linguistic cheating on “certain” there…)

    Comment by kim — March 29, 2011 @ 9:38 pm

  19. Maybe Goff’s assessment was wrong yesterday, and his shift in position is a reflection of the meeting he had today.

    You know, because people can re-evaluate their position based on evidence. Just throwing that out there. Subjective assessments given to the media aren’t immutable.

    Comment by Dizzy — March 29, 2011 @ 9:51 pm

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