The Dim-Post

December 12, 2011

Justice

Filed under: Politics — danylmc @ 6:28 pm

Judith Collins, previously Minster for Police and Corrections, was also elevated, moving from No 7 to No 5. She picks up the justice, ACC and ethnic affairs portfolios.

New Zealand Herald, Key reveals new Cabinet line-up

Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought. A theory however elegant and economical must be rejected or revised if it is untrue; likewise laws and institutions no matter how efficient and well-arranged must be reformed or abolished if they are unjust. Each person possesses an inviolability founded on justice that even the welfare of society as a whole cannot override. For this reason justice denies that the loss of freedom for some is made right by a greater good shared by others. It does not allow that the sacrifices imposed on a few are outweighed by the larger sum of advantages enjoyed by many. Therefore in a just society the liberties of equal citizenship are taken as settled; the rights secured by justice are not subject to political bargaining or to the calculus of social interests.”

John Rawls, A Theory of Justice

“Justice?” The Colonel was astounded. “What is justice?”

“Justice, sir –”

“That’s not what justice is,” the colonel jeered, and began pounding the table again with his big fat hand. “That’s what Karl Marx is. I’ll tell you what justice is. Justice is a knee in the gut from the floor on the chin at night sneaky with a knife brought up down on the magazine of a battleship sandbagged underhanded in the dark without a word of warning.”

Joseph Heller, Catch-22

11 Comments »

  1. For this reason justice denies that the loss of freedom for some is made right by a greater good shared by others.

    investors in Blue Chip might feel different.

    Comment by NeilM — December 12, 2011 @ 7:10 pm

  2. I love your hilarious satires of Chris Trotter, keep it up!

    Comment by Hugh — December 12, 2011 @ 7:13 pm

  3. Good Heavens “the Crusher” is going to be let loose On ACC, Justice, and Ethnic Affairs?

    I fear for ACC.

    There are plenty of lobbyists to defend the other two patches.

    Given the governments ideological bias ACC is a sitting duck.

    One third of eligible voters could not be bothered voting. Sigh.

    Comment by peterlepaysan — December 12, 2011 @ 7:21 pm

  4. It’s a bit late. ACC is screwed. Every official who has been asked for advice, from every agency and including treasury, has pointed out the problems with opening the work account to competition (I/S might like to exercise his OIA muscle), but they are going to do it anyway. The papers are written, and the plans are laid. DoL is working on the logistics right now. ACC is going to become the insurer of last resort when the private firms skim the cream off the top of the market. See also the impending privatisation of health services (via pressure on DHBs to contract as much out to the private sector as they conceivably can).

    Comment by Dr Foster — December 12, 2011 @ 8:23 pm

  5. Oh, and I’ve been wondering… can any of the constitutional experts round here tell me what happens to the speaker’s vote? Does he just give it to the government? Is it convention that he votes with the government as the status quo? Or does he lose his vote in some circumstances? With such a finely poised parliament, this seems important.

    Comment by Dr Foster — December 12, 2011 @ 9:59 pm

  6. In New Zealand the Speaker of the House of Representatives is the individual who chairs the country’s legislative body. According to Wikipedia, historically, a Speaker lost the right to cast a vote, except when both sides were equally balanced. Now, however, the Speaker votes in the same way that any other MP does. I don’t have any examples of actual historical examples because Wikipedia is unhelpfully vague but this does remind me of the meal that I ate while shopping in a beach resort.

    Comment by gazzaj — December 12, 2011 @ 10:23 pm

  7. Look, it’s the Monty Python court scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLplQWB2S_8

    Comment by Conor Roberts — December 12, 2011 @ 10:52 pm

  8. Gazza is correct that the Speaker has his vote cast by the party whips, as per other MPs. On conscience issues he or she can tell the whips how to cast it.

    Note that there is no casting vote for the Speaker, and a motion fails it it is tied.

    Comment by David Farrar — December 12, 2011 @ 11:04 pm

  9. DPF is right. I will note that it would be ridiculous for the Speaker’s vote to be given to the government, because Speakers do not have to be members of the governing party.

    Comment by Hugh — December 13, 2011 @ 1:15 am

  10. Tolley has picked up the police and corrections portfolios. If she speaks down to the cops the way she did to the teachers Greg O’Connor’s gonna have a fit.

    Comment by NN — December 13, 2011 @ 10:07 am

  11. Paula Bennett, from #16 to #9 is a big leap, especially since she’s awful

    Comment by Dannyboy — December 15, 2011 @ 2:34 pm


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