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May 1, 2012

The source of the Prime Minister’s confusion

Filed under: general idiocy — danylmc @ 1:13 pm

John Key has defended his decision not to sack John Banks, partly for engaging in unethical behavior, partly for acting like John Banks when confronted about said behavior, by explaining:

Well, there’s quite a wide definition of ethics.

Which is a phrase that opposition MPs will probably yell at him every day for the rest of his tenure as Prime Minister. Anyway, here’s a screen capture of the Wikipedia page on ethics, which might explain the PMs odd stance, if that’s where he goes for clarification:


  1. When that first Minister (can’t remember his name) to be “removed” by Key, it wasn’t because he was convicted of anything. It never got that far. Ethical?
    Now Key is saying he can’t do anything about Banks because they are only accusations not proven crimes.
    Consistent Key?

    Comment by xianmac — May 1, 2012 @ 1:24 pm

  2. I don’t think he meant ethical in the traditional sense, more “it’s not embarassing me enough, yet”.

    More importantly, is Chris really gay?

    Comment by insider — May 1, 2012 @ 1:43 pm

  3. Why should ethics be less malleable than science? “…like lawyers, I can provide you with another one that will give you a counterview.”

    Comment by Psycho Milt — May 1, 2012 @ 1:48 pm

  4. Who names their gay house “Chris” anyway? Gay houses don’t have front doors only back doors..?

    …I’ll get me coat.

    Comment by Clunking Fist — May 1, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

  5. Ha, very good CF…

    The “wide definition of ethics” comment must have given his media minders multiple heart attacks…

    Comment by goodguy — May 1, 2012 @ 2:37 pm

  6. (Well, the first sentence was good anyway CF)

    Comment by goodguy — May 1, 2012 @ 2:39 pm

  7. Perhaps John’s understanding is that ethics is an English county, hence the wide definition.

    Comment by Bruce Hamilton — May 1, 2012 @ 2:47 pm

  8. Key was misquoted.

    He actually said “Well, there’s quite a wide definition of FOREX”.

    Comment by Gregor W — May 1, 2012 @ 2:59 pm

  9. Key has a bag full of principles, it is useful. He can always find one that suits a particular situation and stuff contradictory ones back into the bag until they become useful again.

    Comment by peterlepaysan — May 1, 2012 @ 6:37 pm

  10. Ethics is indeed wide. Is Key a Nietzschean? Or perhaps a Machiavellian?

    Comment by Ben Wilson — May 2, 2012 @ 10:24 am

  11. gregor said Key was misquoted. He actually said “Well, there’s quite a wide definition of FOREX”.

    I think you misquoted the misquote, what he actually said was “there is quite wide spread on the NZDUSD cross, allegedly.

    Comment by merv — May 2, 2012 @ 11:07 am

  12. Key the philosopher PM was engaging in Meta-ethics. He could have opted for a more post-modern approach about competing narratives.

    I’m curious to know how common this is in local body campaign fundraising. Banks isn’t claiming that he was just doing what everyone else was doing so perhaps it isn’t that common.

    Comment by NeilM — May 2, 2012 @ 12:05 pm

  13. I understand Kerry Prendergast was found to have done something similar a few years ago, but was found not guilty on the grounds that it was not against the Local Electoral Act. Apparently there are way more loopholes in the definition in the Local Electoral Act than in the equivalent law for general elections.

    Comment by kahikatea — May 2, 2012 @ 2:23 pm

  14. Sorry Merv, you’ve misquoted the misquoted misquote. What Key actually said was “there is quite wide spread on the new Bros” [pronounced: Bross]

    Referring, of course, to a Blender expose/feature on the reformation of his favourite 80’s British dance-pop musical trio.

    Comment by Phil — May 2, 2012 @ 6:48 pm

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