The Dim-Post

July 3, 2012

Spin the Wheel

Filed under: psuedopolitics — danylmc @ 5:29 pm

Image by Joe Wylie, based on a comment by Idiot Savant, who has a variation on this theme here.


  1. Umm I think you left off changing the law to include a 3rd “not proven” option for murder.

    Comment by gn — July 3, 2012 @ 6:09 pm

  2. I prefer to imagine a re-enactment of South Park’s manatee gag from Season 10’s cartoon wars (with, I dunno, Gerry or similar) nudging each policy ‘element’ represented as an idea ball into the relevant hole to form the ‘policy’…

    Actually, I prefer not to imagine it, despite its existence or otherwise.

    Comment by Patrick — July 3, 2012 @ 6:26 pm

  3. What happens when “Photo Op with All Blacks” lines up with “Ban”? Or, “Woman’s Weekly Cover” lines up with “Drug Test”?

    Comment by Andrew Geddis — July 3, 2012 @ 6:32 pm

  4. Spot the polls boys, spot the polls.

    Comment by Tim — July 3, 2012 @ 6:46 pm

  5. Here you go Andrew G. Built like a Botswanian watch:
    You really don’t appear to have a lot of faith in this Government.

    Comment by Joe W — July 3, 2012 @ 6:55 pm

  6. Another fine presentation in association with MiniLuv and ProleSec.

    Comment by DeepRed — July 3, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

  7. spot the polls.

    You mean the ones that show a steady decline? Indeed I do… and I’m sure the government’s media advisors have as well.

    Comment by Rhinocrates — July 3, 2012 @ 7:18 pm

  8. The ones that show National at 47.2% Rhino old bean & Labour at 32.2%. Does that make you bitter(er)?

    Comment by Tim — July 3, 2012 @ 7:27 pm

  9. The ones that show, as I said, a steady decline, a likely centre left coalition well within the margin of error and National without viable allies.

    By the way, you forgot to say “beltway” or “that is all” or use mockney.

    Comment by Rhinocrates — July 3, 2012 @ 7:29 pm

  10. Centre left coalition, good luck with that one.

    By the way nice avatar says buckets about you.

    Comment by Tim — July 3, 2012 @ 8:18 pm

  11. Says what, exactly? Will your observations hurt me? Pray tell.

    Be careful “Tim”, you’re letting me get to you. The first rule of trolling is that you never let your target irritate you, but every time you’re challenged you get defensive. You need to get over that if you want to be any good.

    Comment by Rhinocrates — July 3, 2012 @ 8:51 pm

  12. Yes 32% of “centre left coalition” gets to me like a classic Seinfeld episode.

    Comment by Tim — July 3, 2012 @ 10:22 pm

  13. OK, decent man… decent…

    Comment by Hugh — July 3, 2012 @ 10:47 pm

  14. Kiss me Tim

    Comment by Ricky — July 4, 2012 @ 12:53 am

  15. Does the centre left really want a centre left govt consisting of Labour the Greens and Winston? That sort of arrangement could even make National look good.

    Comment by NeilM — July 4, 2012 @ 1:15 am

  16. Really looking forward to the sterilise the elderly policy.

    Comment by John-Paul — July 4, 2012 @ 6:58 am

  17. This particular wheel of fortune really has got under the skin of the Nat cheerleaders. Methinks they protest to much.

    Comment by Sanctuary — July 4, 2012 @ 6:59 am

  18. NeilM, well, I certainly have my fingers crossed that it won’t need Winston.

    … and would someone please teach Tim maths? I haven’t had breakfast yet.

    Comment by Rhinocrates — July 4, 2012 @ 7:41 am

  19. It’s gotten very serious in this place. I used to come here for brevity. Now I come here and see long trolllololol comment threads.

    Comment by David C — July 4, 2012 @ 8:11 am

  20. Comment by Rhinocrates — July 4, 2012 @ 8:29 am

  21. I wonder what the Labour party policy wheel of fortune would look like?

    It’s probably monchrome and stuck on ‘raise taxes by…’ with a free spinning wheel of various percentages.

    Comment by Phil — July 4, 2012 @ 9:53 am

  22. I’m actually in complete agreement with the particular wheel in your image – drug test the royal family and crush the Womans Weekly cover…

    Comment by garethw — July 4, 2012 @ 10:03 am

  23. I’ve just cottoned on. Tim is the latest incarnation of little_stevie.

    Timing of policy announcement to crush pedophiles? Gentlemen, place your bets…

    Comment by Gregor W — July 4, 2012 @ 10:29 am

  24. A Labour, Greens Winston grouping would be very much preferable to the present government if only because they wouldn’t steal our energy assets by selling them to their corporate mates…and they would restore public broadcasting…and they would support better public transport..including the MUCH-needed inner city rail loop in Auckland..and they wouldn’t conspire to wreck our public service by cutting taxes to create a deficit to use as an excuse to dish tax money out to their cronies in the private sector. That all looks pretty good to me. Bring it on!

    Comment by Steve (@nza1) — July 4, 2012 @ 1:08 pm

  25. Yeah, I’m keen for Labour/Greens/NZFirst. They’ll do really well together, considering that now the greens have toned themselves down considerably. And I think NZ First has some hidden talent that needs to come out, namely Richard Prosser, who has pretty good views on how to get out military working properly again.

    Comment by Daniel Lang — July 4, 2012 @ 1:29 pm

  26. Right…that’s it.

    I swear I will track down the next pole smoker to use “methinks” in a sentence and feed them their own intestines.

    There is nothing that makes you sound like a bigger douche.

    You have been warned.

    Comment by King Kong — July 4, 2012 @ 2:15 pm

  27. Methinks anyone who uses the term “pole smoker” has a lot of fucking gall calling anyone a “douche”.

    Comment by Flashing Light — July 4, 2012 @ 3:29 pm

  28. That made me want to type BA-ZINGA!

    So I did.

    Comment by Gregor W — July 4, 2012 @ 4:45 pm

  29. As a gay man I find the term “pole-smoker” offensive.

    Comment by Hugh — July 4, 2012 @ 5:31 pm

  30. @NeilM: I think Labour and the Greens could work together fairly well, although I think the Greens would have difficulty coping with a fall-off in support that would probably result. As for Winston, he is obviously the wild card. It rather depends. He was a fairly successful Foreign Minister, but there’d be problems involving him with domestic politics.

    PS: Somebody’s been reading Kiwiblog. DPF rarely misses a chance to bang the “LABOUR = WINSTON” drum.

    Comment by Hugh — July 4, 2012 @ 5:32 pm

  31. @ Hugh – I think the term “cock smoker” is offensive while “pole smoker” is just pretty weak and banal.

    Comment by Tim — July 4, 2012 @ 7:03 pm

  32. @Tim: It can be both

    Comment by Hugh — July 5, 2012 @ 12:58 am

  33. Methinks he does protest too much

    Comment by max — July 5, 2012 @ 3:24 pm

  34. “pole smoker” is just pretty weak and banal.
    A guy in a bar leans over to the guy next to him and says, “Wanna hear a Polack joke?”

    The guy next to him replies, “Well, before you tell that joke, you should know something. I’m 6′ tall, 200 lbs. and I’m a Pole. The guy sitting next to me is 6’2″ tall, weighs 225, and he’s a Pole. The fella next to him is 6’5″ tall, weighs 250, and he’s a Pole. Now, you still wanna tell that joke?”

    The first guy says, “Nah, I don’t want to have to explain it three times.”

    Comment by Joe W — July 5, 2012 @ 3:24 pm

  35. Interesting that DPF should say Labour = Winston. I would think that it is increasinly being National = Winston (if they want to retain power)

    Comment by max — July 5, 2012 @ 4:54 pm

  36. @Max: His argument is basically the same, that there’s no path to power for Labour that doesn’t include Winston.

    Comment by Hugh — July 5, 2012 @ 5:41 pm

  37. Would having David Parker as finance minister make up for having Curran in charge of broadcasting, Turei in charge of science funding (oh the children) and Peters in charge of endless self promotion at the expense of anything sensible.

    Comment by NeilM — July 5, 2012 @ 8:40 pm

  38. Curran in charge of broadcasting, Turei in charge of science funding

    Oh dear Cthulhu, Clapton and Curtis, NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    Peters in charge of endless self promotion at the expense of anything sensible.

    Well actually, if that kept him away from anything actually meaningful, … I could… grit my teeth.

    Comment by Rhinocrates — July 5, 2012 @ 9:35 pm

  39. While I was campaigning last year, I took a look at the policies on which NZ First were campaigning. There was about an 80% overlap with Green policy (e.g. keep state assets, $15/hr minimum wage), which suggests that Labour/Green/NZFirst may have enough areas of common policy to actually be somewhat successful. The other 20% of NZ First policy, OTOH, was the typical reactionary rubbish that generates headlines but is seldom implemented.

    Comment by mikaerecurtis — July 6, 2012 @ 9:55 am

  40. The second half sounds very similar as well mikaere!

    Comment by merv — July 6, 2012 @ 10:31 am

  41. @mikaere: The thing is you can’t really get a good look at a party’s policy intent for government just from reading brochures. The brochures usually imply every policy is of equal importance. The stuff that falls under the 80% overlap is mostly stuff NZ First will give a very low priority (if not ignore) in any coalition negotiations – it’s there simply because leaving a blank space under “Transport Policy” looks sloppy, even for NZF, so they put something crowd-pleasing in in the hope of not turning off anybody.

    Comment by Hugh — July 6, 2012 @ 11:45 am

  42. That the Greens and NZ First have 80% in commom in terms of policy I’d have thought would be alarming to both parties. Personally I find it more alarming about the Greens.

    Labour’s love affair with Winston was a necessary evil to begin with that morphed into co-dependency. It took a while though.

    Comment by NeilM — July 6, 2012 @ 8:35 pm

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