The Dim-Post

January 28, 2015


Filed under: Uncategorized — danylmc @ 8:29 am

Andrew Little’s State of the Nation speech is up on The Standard:

  • Some on the left are freaking out because he’s addressing a business audience. It’s true that Labour is never going to win over ‘business’, but median voters seem to want competent managers of the economy and its okay for Labour to signal to them that they’ll fill that role by making nice with business.
  • Little’s actual speech is pretty clunky.
  • His emphasis will be on growing small businesses
  • So he probably should have talked about small businesses instead of Air New Zealand and Fonterra
  • Labour will get rid of zero hour contracts
  • He’s promising the lowest unemployment in the developed world.
  • Inevitable content about housing affordability, inequality, manufacturing, possibly cut and pasted from near identical speeches given by Goff, Shearer and Cunliffe.
  • I have nothing else to say about this speech. I give it a 5/10. Seems like a wasted opportunity.


  1. You give it 5/10, and yet the front page of Stuff is covering it as “Litttle’s big jobs pitch – Labour leader pledges lowest unemployment in the developed world.” So in terms of getting cut through where it needs to, i’d say it has worked.

    Comment by Alex Braae — January 28, 2015 @ 9:37 am

  2. For the next two hours until Key does his speech, which I imagine will be beat this on the evening news…

    Comment by Mike — January 28, 2015 @ 9:47 am

  3. New Zealand politicians have pioneered re-discovering we’re a commodity based economy every election for a generation.

    Comment by NeilM — January 28, 2015 @ 10:04 am

  4. @Mike – that will entirely depend on how the media chose to portray it. Key is increasingly making the little below-the-radar mis-steps of the sort that bring you down in the end, the latest being the disgraceful flag lowering for the death of the Saudi King. A little thing, but one that disgusted a lot of people. So we’ll see if the worm is thinking about turning tonight. If Little is damned with faint coverage and the media interview John Key for his opinion on it, then it is business as usual for the elites. But if the media portray the state house asset sale as a sneaky and unpopular move that John Key is trying to sell and contrast it with a solid performance from Little on issues close to the heart of Kiwis then maybe, just maybe, that worm is thinking about a change of direction.

    Comment by Sanctuary — January 28, 2015 @ 10:35 am

  5. It’s interesting that people are only noticing now that flags get lowered when a head of state dies. This has been going on for a while. I don’t recall any comments when the flags were lowered when Hugo Chavez died. If people want a change in policy, so be it, but let’s not single out one episode out of many for criticism.

    Comment by David in Chch — January 28, 2015 @ 11:15 am

  6. Bomber seems to hate it, so that can only be a good thing

    Comment by max — January 28, 2015 @ 11:38 am

  7. “…I don’t recall any comments when the flags were lowered when Hugo Chavez died….”

    Chavez was a popularly elected leader of his country, not a hereditary despot of the worst kind. So stuff your false equivalence where the sun don’t shine, buddy.

    Comment by Sanctuary — January 28, 2015 @ 11:54 am

  8. I thought it was a pretty good speech. Solid, on message, likely to go down better than whatever Key has to say about flogging off the housing stock


    Comment by Antoine — January 28, 2015 @ 1:18 pm

  9. PS He wants to support small businesses. Does he include farms in this?

    (Genuine question, not being snarky)

    Comment by Antoine — January 28, 2015 @ 1:30 pm

  10. Chavez may have initially been popularly elected, but he quickly became a despot. I guess you missed those news items. And thanks for your polite rebuttal, which completely missed that Chavez became a despot, and so my comment was on point and was not a false equivalence.

    Comment by David in Chch — January 28, 2015 @ 1:55 pm

  11. antione – it would depend on the farm i guess. Some might still be SMEs in effect or family owned – others are run by large conglomerates.

    Comment by framu — January 28, 2015 @ 2:30 pm

  12. David in Chch – how about bush jnr? – after all, he did bring officially back torture and detention without charge

    Just where is the line between despot and leader?

    Comment by framu — January 28, 2015 @ 2:33 pm

  13. True, Framu. My point was that it has been policy for many years for the flags to be lowered if a head of state dies. Period. Not “if they are not a despot” (like the late Saudi king or what Chavez became), not “if they were democratically elected and then behaved well”. Simply that they died while head of state. If people want to change that policy, then attack the policy, not the decision in this one instance.

    Comment by David in Chch — January 28, 2015 @ 2:57 pm

  14. Oh, and neither Bush had died yet, and even if and when they do, the flags will not likely be lowered because they are no longer a head of state.

    Comment by David in Chch — January 28, 2015 @ 2:59 pm

  15. David in Chch – fair enough. It was intended more as a genuine question (your salient points re: being alive, aside) with maybe only a pinch of snark🙂

    Comment by framu — January 28, 2015 @ 3:42 pm

  16. Despite the riveting discussion on flag lowering….Littles speech was a wasted opportunity where he spoke to a business audience and pimped his union credentials and will abolish the 90 trial period and zero hous contracts, seriously Labour have been crap for 6 years and the next 3 will be worse than Cunliffes tenure. Does McCarten really thing the business community will back the new man because he has come down from on high to talk to them in an address to let his union backers that he is their man.
    Well done Katie Bradford and Corrin Dann for being able to spin this, sterling work.

    Comment by David — January 28, 2015 @ 8:06 pm

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