The Dim-Post

September 26, 2016

Yay capitalism

Filed under: Uncategorized — danylmc @ 11:07 am

Via Radio New Zealand:

The maker of Nurofen has been charged by the Commerce Commission for misleading the public about its “specific pain range”.

Eight of the charges alleged that the packaging and promotion of four different types of specific Nurofen pain relief products – Nurofen Migraine Pain, Nurofen Tension Headache, Nurofen Period Pain and Nurofen Back Pain – were misleading.

The Commerce Commission said the advertising and packaging was misleading because the specific pain relief products contained the same ingredients and were equally effective.

Also containing the exact same ingredients and having the exact same effect: the generic off-brand pills two shelves down, at a third of the price.

Last week I went to the optometrist to get new lenses for my glasses. The optometrist quoted me $1,200 for the lenses. I walked down the road to OPSM and got the same prescription from the same manufacturer for $430.


  1. Watch this thingy

    Comment by Robert Singers (@glassfugue) — September 26, 2016 @ 11:19 am

  2. Marketing: the hope for the future of economic growth. At least by those with no imagination.

    Comment by James Green — September 26, 2016 @ 11:26 am

  3. Watch this thingy

    It felt like something like that was going on. I didn’t buy new frames but they seemed a LOT more expensive than they did like, four years ago.

    Comment by danylmc — September 26, 2016 @ 11:39 am

  4. Last time was in Sydney I noticed the for types were still on sale despite the case being brought months prior. It felt like they just didn’t care. Brazen, really.

    I bought the back pain one because my back was sore. I knew it made no difference….

    Comment by truthseekernz — September 26, 2016 @ 11:51 am

  5. When I get a hangover from my cheapo 3 litre cask of wine, I use budget aspirins at a third of the price of more expensive named brands. I guess you might say I’m not overly impressed by marketing, but rather am motivated to get my hits as cheaply as humanly possible.

    Personally I’m engaged in an economic jihad against marketing and consumerism. One can’t readily transmit the glee I experience when I buy a ‘named brand’ in a op-shop for a fraction of the retail price. All my clothes are second hand apart from undies and socks. I recall my dear wife remarking when she saw some lower-decile types going through the stuff people used to leave out for collection in Auckland. “Look at those people scavenging.” she said. “Aha!” I replied: “But when the middle classes do it, it’s called recycling.” Such was my riposte.

    Heh, that silenced her.

    “That was Wildean, dude.” I thought.

    ps she votes Green, I’m more of a suck it and see kind of guy

    God I’m so bored,

    And it’s only the first day of half term.

    Comment by leeharmanclark — September 26, 2016 @ 11:57 am

  6. All my clothes are second hand … when the middle classes do it, it’s called recycling.

    There is emerging evidence that the rapid rise of clothing ‘recycling’ over the last decade or so has pushed up prices and reduced second hand clothing supply for the genuinely needy. Not only are you part of yet another fashionable trend, you’re also, at the margin, perpetuating the cycle of poverty.

    I, on the other hand, buy a lot of my clothes online from completely unknown sources. God knows what horrible business practices I am tacitly supporting.

    Comment by Phil — September 26, 2016 @ 12:35 pm

  7. Further to the glasses issue, there is no question we are still getting ripped off in NZ. Case in point: In Japan, you can buy glasses for a total of 5,000 yen (under NZD 70) for frames, prescription lenses, a case, the works. Chain shops selling glasses line priced at 5,000, 7,000 and 10,000 yen are on almost every street corner. You can pay more for designer frames if you want, but why would you?

    I imagine other Asian countries are as cheap or cheaper. (So much for supposed ‘cheap’ glasses places in NZ.) Draw what conclusions about the workings of the market as you feel free…

    Comment by Glen — September 26, 2016 @ 1:01 pm

  8. My family eye guy for many years pointed out that my eyes are bit to important to trust to shoddy operators and spectacle needd to sturdy because of the price, and he had me at that until I went to Thailand and got a very professional eye checkup and three sets of frames and lens for around $300. Now, the quality of Thai materials are not that great but then again, price in NZ for almost everything also bears no relationship whatsoever to quality or cost of manufacture. And anyway, for someone who grew up knowing you had a small fortune perched on your face and that damaging your one pair of carefully picked spectacles would instigate a minor financial crisis at home the idea of having six pairs that I could select from based on mood and fashion was and is wildly intoxicating. Who cares if you break your glases, they only cost $70!!! HUZZAH!

    Comment by Sanctuary — September 26, 2016 @ 1:16 pm

  9. The other shop I went into offered ‘cheap’ lenses, but you couldn’t swap them out. You had buy new frames, which were all designer frames costing hundreds of dollars. Walking around town I suddenly noticed how very many optometrists and glasses shops there were on the high street.

    Comment by danylmc — September 26, 2016 @ 1:46 pm

  10. All shops on the main street at ground level must inherently be ripping you off just so they can pay the rent for those sites.

    Comment by James Green — September 26, 2016 @ 2:28 pm

  11. Sanc, you just perfectly described glasses fashion in Japan. Why not have lots of pairs, then your glasses can match your outfit the way your bag or cap does. Both men and women get into it. It’s fun and freedom.

    It also means no stressing about losing your specs or about breaking expensive spare pairs you may never need. Heck, have one in each of your bag/car/etc. if you want. Whatever. No stress.

    it’s amazing the freedom real competition can bring…

    Comment by Glen — September 26, 2016 @ 3:16 pm

  12. Or go online and get new whole specs with your prescription for $90-$120

    Comment by duker — September 26, 2016 @ 4:15 pm

  13. And don’t get me started on hearing aids. At least these’s an app for that now.

    Comment by Clunking Fist — September 26, 2016 @ 4:35 pm

  14. Why not go to Specsavers they are advertising two pair for $169.Seems reasonable to me

    Comment by Ron Wilson — September 26, 2016 @ 5:49 pm

  15. I saw the frames of my dreams in a Newmarket optometrist a few years ago for $580. Appalled, I rang around and could get the same frames (but not in the colour I wanted) at a suburban optometrist for $420. So shop rent does matter. Knowing I also needed new lenses (megabucks) and prescription sunglasses, it was still too much. In the end I bought the same frames from Amazon for $80USD.

    I’d rather buy from a local shop and support local business than buy online, but when the price differential is that great, local loses.

    Comment by MeToo — September 27, 2016 @ 7:58 am

  16. Of course, as most of you have never come close to running a business, you’ll have overlooked the amount needed to repay the loans/capital to buy all the fancy gizmos that test your eyes. Sure, the opto in Hong Kong can fire a laser through your existing lenses to check your prescription, but will they take the time to test your eyes properly. And have you factored in the cost of the flight… (and assuming the tech is actually an optometrist and not just a shop assistant with some “advanced” training).

    Comment by Clunking Fist — September 27, 2016 @ 2:34 pm

  17. Can’t tell if title is sarcastic orrrr….

    Comment by StephenR — September 27, 2016 @ 4:16 pm

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